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Some sellers tell the truth but not too much anyway ..... You must know the reason for this unfortunate behavior

 

The worst is when the seller does not even deign to answer the questions as in the case of the car mentioned a little higher here....

 

Doug DeMuro has released a video on #151605.
He of course made the usual mistake of mentioning 30 cars produced but a really cool video nonetheless!

Auction ends in 7 days. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3o0nqQ8E/2007-ferrari-599-gtb-fiorano

 

Just a few minutes ago the YouTube creator Doug DeMuro uploaded a 25-minute review of a 1,300-mile 599 with a three-pedal conversion. Here's the link. This car is also up for auction on DeMuro's online auction site, Cars & Bids. Here's the link. This is a European Auto Group (EAG) conversion performed in January 2020. According to the EAG invoice, this conversion used all OEM Ferrari parts. Here's a copy of the invoice that I downloaded from the Cars & Bids listing. Take note of the bottom line: $84,990!

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That seemed quite unusual to me too. I am fairly certain this car was used to develop the prototypes of their kit so they might have used more parts/worked on it for more time than normal(?). I don't know what happened for sure.

L.L.

 

My apologies, L.L., but you have quoted the original version of my post, in which I incorrectly described this EAG version as having used a cable system, not a shifter rod. After I had posted that original version I read the descriptions in the EAG invoice and saw that this 3-year-old conversion used OE parts, not the current cable-based EAG 599 conversion kit. That setup was perfected in Normal Guy Supercar Dan's 599. NGS Dan's YouTube channel includes a 28-part playlist of videos which chronicle the EAG conversion of his car, which you can find in this link. That project kicked off two years ago and was completed just in time for Dan to drive the car around in Carmel and Monterey during the August 2022 Car Week.

 

What company did you use for the inspection?

 

# 151595 sold for $256k. That's a pity that the owner didn't sell it last time. But when you want too much, you break your teeth...But anyway, it's already sold very very well. It's not worth more.

 

I have now had a chance to review the Cars & Bids listing and have discovered that the current owner (the second owner and apparently not EAG's $84,990 customer) spent, in March 2022, an additional $19,551 to perfect EAG's January 2020 "OE" conversion. As a line item in the Cars & Bids listing puts it, "Modifications reported by the seller include . . . additional transmission and electronics work performed by Francorchamps of America, and an aftermarket center console." Another line item states "March 2022: Coupler, transmission rod, shift rod, damper, and center console replaced by Francorchamps of America." Here are the FOA invoices:

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I am guessing the second invoice, for $3,000 labor only, has to do with reflashing the ECU. In any event, the grand total for the conversion comes to an eye-watering $104,541.

 

Wow!

$256K

That was much cheaper than I thought, however if you were to buy one and spend $50 - $60K on it, then it would be less than this.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2007-ferrari-599-gtb-fiorano-40/

 

I personally inspected the cars.

First thing I look for is accident damage.

Then how it drives.

Once it passes this test I will have a PPI or if I am comfortable, I will buy the car.

 

100K over the car's value in F1 seems solid to me

 

Sorry to say it, but over $100k spent on the conversion, and the carbon on the centre console winds up looking like that?

And no attempt to cover up the steering column holes, or use even the correct toe plate on the clutch pedal?

What this does show however is that the shift rod really does work well. And it doesn’t vibrate when set up correctly.


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LOL. Again a lie to trick potential buyers. How can these be so gullible? It's really incredible. My car was the only one in the world to be converted with original parts. Except the clutch pedal and the leather console. And I'm the only one with an invoice with ALL the parts used. The others only talk ******** to fool people.

 

I'm not American and I don't live in the United States, but I really feel like a lot of people have a lot of money to spend on dodgy stuff. In Europe, people don't spend their money that way and pay much more attention to the conformity of what they buy. Such a car would be almost unsaleable here. But it's true that there are also many more casinos in the USA than in Europe in my opinion...You must like gambling much more than we Europeans do.

 

What makes me laugh even more is that the sellers-owners always say that their by EAG or Exoticars converted 599 is fantastic, amazing, unbelievable, unforgattable, they are ALL in love with their converted manual gated 599 that it is the best car they have ever owned but they ALL sell their converted 599. I really wonder why.....

 

s/n ZFFFC60A870151595 is a nice not bad converted car although it could never be certified but in my opinion s/n ZFFFC60A770151605 is really ugly and I will never understand how sane people can put $200,000 in a garbage can....

 

And once again some objective comments are censored on this web site. When I say sales are manipulated and rigged, it's not just my imagination.

 

In my opinion, 151595 is the car which is definitiv to prefer before 151605

GTO Wheels with new tires
Titanium wheel bolts
HGTE mufflers
HGTE springs

Only these parts are min 20.000 $ incl. labor, some are very hard to find (if you find it), all these parts highlights a 599 GTB.

Daniel

 

On this "cars & bids" site, they systematically delete comments that do not praise the car offered. I even put the Ferrarichats link, guess what, deleted !!

 

For me, #151605 is a big crap. There is no other word in the dictionary to describe such a dung. So why try to find positives?

 

They must have paid dearly for a well-known guy, Doug De Muro (who is a stranger to me) to praise this garbage can on YouTube, but that doesn't change my opinion of this big merguez.

 

It is my understanding that De Muro is a principal owner of Cars & Bids. It is doubtful that he pays himself out of his own gross revenues for favorable coverage of auction cars on his Youtube channel. As for Cars & Bids per se, I can think of only two two monetary interests in play. One is the buyer's fee it earns from an auction. The buyer's fee is the lesser 4.5% of the winning bid or $4,500. (In other words, the buyer's fee maxes out with a $100,000 bid.) 4.5% is much, much less than any live auction house, and none of them have a $4,500 max.) The other is the hope of repeat business on the part of its sellers, aka goodwill. The dollar value of such goodwill is unknown, but it can never be greater than $4,500 gross for any subsequent auction.

 

That's what I've been thinking for a long time; When it comes to money, everyone is capable of anything, especially the worst...