Thanks Arvin and moretti actually everyone This is exactly what i am looking for I boat on the East Coast of the US would buy the boat at Maritimo US office in ft Lauderdale and take it up to Virginia Beach About 1000 miles.. from there i would spend most of my time traveling the Chesapeake Bay.. the boat would be very similar to the boat ARVIN posted and i would have volvo engines shaft drive of course. although i would have preferred Mann engines as I have a lot of experience with them. On the other hand Volvo Penta is based about 10 miles from my house and a long time friend of mine is the name i was given that they use for warranty.. .. And Moretti thanks for the picture of the plant that i also the type of thing I am looking for… I mainly wanted to know if those local to the area would consider the boat to be well made .. I am also learning that of the connection between Rivera and Maritimo
I haven’t been myself, but my Father inlaw used to go all the time and he, and Everyone else that goes loves the place.
I often "hunger" for a large boat ,having spent decades on the parents Bertrams in Melbourne . If I was to buy I would buy a Riviera over a Bertram style product . The built and finish quality Larry of the above mentioned boats and the leather saloon seating will be IMO of a far better quality than any production similar boat the US has to offer . There great sea boats any build to which Barry Cotter is involved with . Larry if you are on Facebook, join the Riviera boat group ,you'll see what these boats are capable of doing , long distance runs up and down the Pacific coast line of Australia . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Arvin…. as far as quality they do appear to be a very high quality and higher then most similar boats available for similae the boat we are planning to buy is a M series which has a perfect layout for our use ..I think we take delivery in early April….. I am not really on facebook but my wife is …thanks for the great input…
What I notice about the Barry Cotter set up was the service that was offered to the owners ,keep us posted Larry .
Thank you I was able to find an owner near me that said the same thing he had an unusual issue and Martimo flew someone in from Australia And fixed the issue and actually went above and beyond the call of duty replacing all the carpet ..I think an AC WATER LINE broke and damaged the lower staterooms and its carpet… Things happen but thats good service I would think
So what is the size and spec ect and options you are shooting for ? The M series is so much in the style of Riviera FB boats ,great sea boats from what I experienced out in the ocean with a 20 knot wind side on ,my friend with the 57footer just gunned the motors and we were doing an easy 26 odd knotts with a fuel burn of about 220 litres per hour ! He told me he never had an issue re going to the out reefs and concern over storms and the boats ability to handle it
This might apply if you're inside the reef, but not for blue water. Planing hull boats don't work in serious conditions, that's why professional fishing boats are displacement hulls. Rivieras and the like are designed to lift out of the water for speed, but when the swells get too big for planing they roll and wallow and are easily swamped. The east coast of Australia has some of the toughest and most unpredictable conditions you'll find anywhere and it's simply not possible to do more than 10-15 knots when the swells get big. There are also the dangerous bar crossings, which are twice as hard in a planing hull. I was once in a 5 metre south-easterly following sea in my Grand Banks, about 10 miles off the coast, when I saw a big Riviera a way ahead of me in all sorts of trouble, rolling heavily as the swells went through. 20 minutes after I passed, they were on the radio with a "Pan Pan" distress call. Another busy day for Coastwatch. And displacement hulls might be slow but they are much more efficient. My boat burned 20 litres an hour, not 220. It was built by Riviera btw, but Bill Barry Cotter gave up the rights because he could make more money with his "chop-gun" sprayed hulls than GB's hand laid quality requirements. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Each to their own the great thing about a planing hull is you can outrun the storm while the displacement boat at 8 knots rolls . In all the years I spent on the 28 and 35 and 25 Bertram ,I know what style I'd prefer to be in going in or out of the Port Phillip bay heads or returning from Portsea to St Kilda in a storm .
Bertram are an excellent sea boat. For what its worth, a 50-60 ft Riv or Maritimo is going to be a 2-5 mill investment. The guys I know with these things, the fuel burn is the last thing they care about, considering most run 240 volt appliances, so then you have to run your Gen Set for most of the day to save your batteries, burning even more fuel. The 110 footer that my brother skippers on occasion, at full tilt burns over 800 ltrs an hour! Do you think the owner give a rats arse about the fuel burn when he steps off his private jet to go fishing?? Coming across a bar with a following sea bearing down on you and breaking on the back deck as you chug along at 8 knots, up to 11 as you surf down the wave, screwing the helm around like a oversteering VW, is to late to ask for more horsepower.
The pre Carribean the real Bertrams were tough boats and somewhat thicker in the hull than latter boats built . As a boat for me a 35 footer in the classic style is perfect ..
In my last job at sea we used to be able to cruise well in excess of 30 knots although we consumed 1.5 cubic metres of fuel a minute. Burning through 15,000 litres a minute used to limit how long we could sustain that speed but we certainly DGAF about the cost. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
For sure there is a sweetspot for all things mechanical. Planes trains and automobiles and boats. Best cruising speed, most efficient for all the harmonics to happen. There was a formula that maritime engineers used for the wave harmonics at the required cruise speed that would dictate the chine length for less drag as it rolled off the transom. Even our waterjets that are rated for 87,000 psi, are best maintained running at 76,000 psi. One principle that governs all though..... If it flys, *#!ks, or floats it going to cost you a ****load!!
There's more to fuel consumption than cost. A boat that needs refueling more often is a pain. I had my boat on Sydney Harbour for 7 years. During that time there were progressively fewer fuel wharves and longer queues, often with people who could afford big boats but couldn't handle them without touch parking. I ended up booking a fuel barge to come to my mooring. Another hassle, they were always late and didn't care if their steel hull hung with old car tyres hit my pristine gelcoat. As for 8 knots, that was Rob's throwaway line. My displacement boat was plenty quick enough to stay on the back of the wave crossing a bar. Modern GB's do 25 knots with 1/3rd the consumption of Riv or Maritimos.
Don't get me wrong Ian, I'm a fan of the GB boats for there build quality and live aboard plus's same as I'm a huge fan of the Nordhavn product . IF I was to buy a boat ,it would be if and when I move down to the Flinders area or re -located to Tassie , it would be for comfort so YES your style of boat .
don't get me started! You get a boat license in NSW with a mickey-mouse logbook where you declare you've survived 3 outings in a tinny. The number of times you see innocent people's boats getting damaged on marinas because some idiot has no idea.
1.5 cubic metres per minute We had to do an annual full power trial and be able to hold that load for at least 10 minutes The ship carried many hundreds of cubic metres of fuel We’d often refuel at sea several times per week Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
