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Scottsdale, Paris and Amelia Island auctions

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 25, 2023.

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  1. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #1 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 25, 2023
    I personally cannot remember a time since 2015/16 where we have seen quite so many Ferrarri's on offer. Regardless of whether its the great racing cars of the fifties and sixties, modern hypercars and three 500 Superfasts, haven't seen one of them for a while!

    Mecum sold a 275GTB/4 at Kissimmee for a great result on its first weekend but failed to fire with the other 275s on offer and taught us little. Scottsdale over the next day or two will teach us whether this really is a boom cycle for the prancing horse. Paris the following week will be even more topical with ten million dollar plus Ferraris on offer and now Gooding have loaded up on ultra high value Ferrari for their Amelia sale.

    Estimates are in USD for Scottsdale and Amelia, EURO for Paris

    1951 Ferrari 340MM 0120A Artcurial Paris 5-8mm
    1953 Ferrari 250MM 0274MM Gooding Amelia Island 3-5mm
    1958 Ferrari 250GT Tour de France 0909GT Gooding Amelia Island 6-8mm
    1962 Ferrari 250GT California 3099GT Gooding Amelia Island 18-22mm
    1962 Ferrari 250GT California Rep. 3671GT Artcurial Paris 600-800k
    1963 Ferrari 250GTE 4571GT Bonhams Paris 280-350k
    1963 Ferrari 250GTE 4659GT RM Paris 400-450k
    1963 Ferrari 250GT Lusso 4735GT RM Paris 1.6-2mm
    1963 Ferrari 250GT Lusso 5215GT Gooding Amelia Island 1.8-2.4mm
    1964 Ferrari 250GT Lusso 5875GT Artcurial Paris 1.5-1.8mm
    1964 Ferrari 250LM 5901 Artcurial Paris
    1964 Ferrari 500 Superfast 6043SF Gooding Amelia Island 2-2.5mm
    1965 Ferrari 275GTB #07629 Gooding Amelia Island 2-2.4mm
    1965 Ferrari 275GTS #07767 Bonhams Scottsdale 1.65-1.95mm
    1967 Ferrari 275GTB/4 #09505 RM Paris 3.1-3.3mm
    1967 Ferrari 330GTC #09711 Bonhams Scottsdale 600-700k
    1966 Ferrari 500 Superfast 8565SF RM Scottsdale 2.2-2.8mm
    1966 Ferrari 500 Superfast 8817SF Bonhams Amelia Island
    1967 Ferrari 330GT 2+2 #09763 Artcurial Paris 250-300k
    1967 Ferrari 275GTB/4 10325 RM Scottsdale 3-3.5mm
    1967 Ferrari 275GTB/4 10803 Gooding Amelia Island 3.5-4mm
    1968 Ferrari 206GT Dino #00136 RM Amelia Island
    1969 Ferrari 365GTC 12079 Artcurial Paris 600-800k
    1969 Ferrari 365GTB/4 12923 RM Amelia Island
    1970 Ferrari 365GTB/4 13275 Bonhams Paris 730-830k
    1970 Ferrari 365GTB/4 13407 Artcurial Paris 650-850k
    1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 14157 Artcurial Paris 620-750k
    1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 14207 RM Scottsdale 550-600k
    1971 Ferrari 365GTC/4 14545 Bonhams Paris 180-220k
    1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 14907 Gooding Amelia Island 550-650k
    1971 Ferrari 246GT Dino #01684 Artcurial Paris 300-350k
    1972 Ferrari 365GTC/4 15621 RM Amelia Island
    1973 Ferrari 365GTS/4 16793 Gooding Amelia Island 2.5-3mm
    1973 Ferrari 246GTS Dino #06846 Artcurial Paris 350-450k
    1976 Ferrari 308GTB Group 4 18855 RM Paris 750-950k
    1976 Ferrari 308GTB 19377 RM Amelia Island
    1977 Ferrari 512BB Koenig 20709 Bonhams Paris 150-200k
    1977 Ferrari 308GTB 20753 Artcurial Paris 150-200k
    1980 Ferrari 308GTB Group 4 20905 Artcurial Paris 800k-1.2mm
    1979 Ferrari 512BB 30097 Artcurial Paris 200-250k
    1981 Ferrari 208GTB 36587 Artcurial Paris 50-80k
    1985 Ferrari 308GTB 58711 Artcurial Paris 140-180k
    1985 Ferrari 328GTS 60215 Bonhams Paris 75-100k
    1986 Ferrari Testarossa 63753 RM Amelia Island
    1988 Ferrari Testarossa 76153 Artcurial Paris 60-100k
    1988 Ferrari 328GTS 77449 RM Paris 90-110k
    1988 Ferrari F40 77676 Bonhams Paris 2.2-2.7mm
    1990 Ferrari F40 85308 RM Paris 2.1-2.5mm
    1990 Ferrari F40 86620 Gooding Amelia Island 3-3.5mm
    1991 Ferrari Testarossa 87696 Bonhams Paris 90-120k
    1991 Ferrari Testarossa 87863 Artcurial Paris 130-160k
    1991 Ferrari Testarossa 88663 RM Paris 110-140k
    1991 Ferrari 643F1 127 RM Paris 2.9-3.4mm
    1992 Ferrari 512TR 92967 Bonhams Paris 130-160k
    1992 Ferrari F40 93942 Artcurial Paris 2-2.5mm
    1992 Ferrari F40 94277 RM Scottsdale 2.2-2.8mm
    1994 Ferrari 348GTB 98542 Bonhams Paris 100-130k
    1995 Ferrari 348 Spider 99580 Artcurial Paris 60-90k
    1995 Ferrari F512M 100483 RM Scottsdale 625-700k
    1995 Ferrari F512M 101099 Gooding Amelia Island
    1996 Ferrari 355 Spider 109327 Artcurial Paris 70-110k
    2000 Ferrari 456M GTA 117017 Artcurial Paris 50-80k
    2000 Ferrari 360 Modena 119899 RM Paris 70-90k
    2000 Ferrari 360 Modena 122435 Bonhams Scottsdale 150-175k
    2001 Ferrari 456M GTA 122545 Bonhams Paris 35-50k
    2003 Ferrari Enzo 128786 RM Paris 3.8-4.2mm
    2003 Ferrari 575GTC 2204 Artcurial Paris 3.3-3.8mm
    2004 Ferrari 612 135770 Bonhams Paris 50-60k
    2005 Ferrari Superamerica 145743 RM Paris 650-700k
    2008 Ferrari 599GTB Manual 160180 RM Paris 600-700k
    2009 Ferrari 430 Scuderia 169200 RM Scottsdale 500-750k
    2011 Ferrari 612F1 172726 Artcurial Paris 80-120k
    2010 Ferrari 599GTO 175964 RM Scottsdale 850-950k
    2011 Ferrari 458 181683 RM Paris 180-240k
    2014 Ferrari La Ferrari 207435 RM Scottsdale 4-4.5mm
    2015 Ferrari F12 TDF 213366 RM Paris 750-850k
    2016 Ferrari F12 TDF 215650 Artcurial Paris 1.2-1.6mm
    2017 Ferrari F12 TDF 224694 RM Scottsdale 1.1-1.3mm
    2019 Ferrari 488 Pista 241461 Bonhams Scottsdale 500-600k
    2021 Ferrari 812GTS 267739 Bonhams Scottsdale 680-750k
    2001 Ferrari F1 N56 Bonhams Scottsdale 500-700k
     
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  2. Marcel Massini

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    #2 Marcel Massini, Jan 25, 2023
    I suggest to separate this into three individual threads for Scottsdale, Paris and Amelia. Three totally different locations and more than one country, hence totally different markets and currencies.

    As another example, there are currently no fewer than five 250 GT California Spiders (long and short) on the market. Not just at auctions but by renowned dealers, some of these can be seen in Paris next week. Question here is how many Cal Spiders can the market absorb?

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #3 bertdeboer340, Jan 26, 2023
    Ferrari 340 America 0120/A
     
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  4. Edward 96GTS

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    #4 Edward 96GTS, Jan 26, 2023
    any Daytona sales yet?
     
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  7. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #7 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 28, 2023
    RM did very well to sell the LaFerrari for $4.1mm, Corvette LS1 for $3.1mm and Miura SV for $3.6mm. The Shelby Cobra 427 failed to fire at $2.2mm, have any of these ever sold?

    Ferrari results were:

    1966 Ferrari 500 Superfast 8565SF RM Scottsdale 2.2-2.8mm $2,225,000.00
    1967 Ferrari 275GTB/4 10325 RM Scottsdale 3-3.5mm $3,360,000.00
    1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 14207 RM Scottsdale 550-600k $665,000.00
    1992 Ferrari F40 94277 RM Scottsdale 2.2-2.8mm $2,150,000.00
    1995 Ferrari F512M 100483 RM Scottsdale 625-700k $681,500.00
    2009 Ferrari 430 Scuderia 169200 RM Scottsdale 500-750k $428,500.00
    2010 Ferrari 599GTO 175964 RM Scottsdale 850-950k $863,000.00
    2014 Ferrari La Ferrari 207435 RM Scottsdale 4-4.5mm $4,075,000.00
    2017 Ferrari F12 TDF 224694 RM Scottsdale 1.1-1.3mm $1,242,500.00

    In other news RM are now offering the last 206SP (#032) for private treaty sale
     
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  8. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #8 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 28, 2023
    Bonhams had a couple of great results too, not least setting a new record for any Pre WW1 road car with the Simplex selling at $4.8mm and Maserati MC12 Corsa at $3.8mm.

    Ferrari results were

    1965 Ferrari 275GTS #07767 Bonhams Scottsdale 1.65-1.95mm $1,586,250.00
    1967 Ferrari 330GTC #09711 Bonhams Scottsdale 600-700k NS @ $550k
    2000 Ferrari 360 Modena 122435 Bonhams Scottsdale 150-175k NS @ $120k
    2019 Ferrari 488 Pista 241461 Bonhams Scottsdale 500-600k NS @ $470k
    2021 Ferrari 812GTS 267739 Bonhams Scottsdale 680-750k NS @ $595k
    2001 Ferrari F1 N56 Bonhams Scottsdale 500-700k $517,500.00
     
  9. Edward 96GTS

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    #9 Edward 96GTS, Jan 29, 2023
    430 scud 169200, was that a coupe or 16m?
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    #10 Marcel Massini, Jan 29, 2023
    Coupé.

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  11. Marcel Massini

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    #11 Marcel Massini, Jan 29, 2023
    4 out of 6 Ferraris NOT SOLD.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #12 italiancars, Jan 29, 2023
    that’s a good result.
     
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    #13 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 29, 2023
    Very good result, with just 12 built its hard judge since they are not often offered. Ultimately every example auctioned I can think of going back to '07/08 hasn't sold..........
     
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    #14 ersatzS2, Jan 29, 2023
    For someone like me of a certain age it is interesting to see the rising interest & prices of more 'recent' cars like the Maserati, while the Ferraris of the sixties while certainly holding their own are soft/flat. The GTC and GTS prices look lighter than I might have guessed; that GTS in particular was a spectacular looking restoration by Motion Products. On the other hand, I love the Pre WWI sportscars and the strong Simplex result bucks the trends of recent years (decades...?)
     
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    #15 TTR, Jan 29, 2023
    Yes, at least privately, AFAIK.
     
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    #16 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 29, 2023
    No doubt but I can remember at least 5 auctions and no results, yet
     
  17. DWR46

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    #17 DWR46, Jan 29, 2023
    Timmy: Full Factory Competition 427 Cobra sold last year for 3.5M. It was offered to us, we offered slightly less and it was immediately sold for the 3.5.
     
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    #18 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jan 30, 2023
    So whats with them at auction, is it a commentary on CSX3006 which accounts for 4 of the 6 entries I have since 2007?
     
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    Timothy: I do not know the answer to your question. Factory 427 Competition and Semi-Competition (SC) Cobras are a unique set of cars in the Cobra world. There is a lot of conflicting information out there about them and most have led confusing lives. They also have a very limited competition history, especially as far as factory race entries go.
     
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    #20 GBTR6, Jan 30, 2023
    Wouldn't CSX3006 be a continuation car of sorts? I thought all the originals were CSX2000 and up?

    Perry
     
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    Original 260-289 cu in= 2000 series numbers, 427 cu in= 3000 series numbers. CSX3006 is an original 1965 Cobra.
     
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    Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate
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    #24 readplays, Feb 3, 2023
    I'd be curious to know the Artcurial Retromobile results for Salmson(s) Lots 40 and 41 if anyone finds out.
     
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