What happened to the suppposed 25 versions of the 512S produced ?

again.....

 

I seem to remember you were going to prove what you had previously said about #1004...something about a dress....

 

Well... in this thread, the 512 M at Le Mans museum is given as a replica...
In the « Pics of vintages I find/see on the net. » thread, the same 512 M at Rétromobile is given as the real 1044.
Who can help ? Thanks in advance !

 

A friend saw a red 512S in 1994(?) at Laguna Seca where clearly the major roll bar / roll hoop could be seen .....a very thin one that was not allowed by the motorsport authorities in 1970s when they inspected the 25 512S cars. That car at the factory in 1970 was 1046, the only one not updated with the bigger (larger diameter) roll hoop.
Was this red car in Monterey 1004 or 1016? (0r 1004 but still with a 1016 tag)
Probably others here have photo's and could post. This should be the same chassis that was owned by Scholtyssek (and he attended with the car at the Oldtimer GP Nürburgring. Probably someone has photos of those events too.

Maybe someone can dig into their photo archives?

 

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Man you are just living right when that's your track car. Emotional.

 

Yes it was the John Giordano ex Scholtyssek car.

 

Take two minuts to watch the restoration on the 1970 Daytona 512 S...
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Crazy how much the windscreen is too high and vertical today ! They must have to favor the comfort of the pilot but the result is ugly !
Also the nose is uncorrect for several reasons...

 

I suggest you compare pictures from the exact same angle and check as well with factory drawings and measurements…

 

Bump.
What happened to "p_gio" and "lgs" ?
Still searching for the dress?

Marcel Massini

 

At Andales's villa for a prancing horsey tea party.
Haven't you received the invitation, Marcel?
(I have not).
Quel dommage!

 

Sorry for the long delay in replying but I just caught up with this thread again. The cars that were built at Hajduk’s Motorkraft shop were actually owned by the late Peter Dyson (Rob’s brother). He acquired the Mueller package when the original purchaser decided that the scope of the project was more than he wanted to deal with. The components that came with the package were enough to build two cars and included the original serial number tags of two of the Filipinetti/Mueller cars. The second car had machined billet front uprights as there was only one pair of them in the parts package but there were two of everything else—engine, gearbox, etc. Hajduk had Walter Medlin’s 512M (#1014) on hand and it was used to fixture the jig for the new chassis construction. One car was built in M configuration using the tag from the car that Rodriquez lost his life in at the Norisring. When I cleaned up the fuel filler caps during the construction they were still blackened from the fire. The second car was going to be a Spyder “S” but ended up as a Coda Lunga using one of the two long tails that we had. Motorkraft then did the skin restoration of the 512F that was owned by the Donner family at the time and later built a clone 512M for Benton Bryan using a Daytona engine and Hewland transaxle. The Medlin car was then acquired by Michael Sheehan and Motorkraft did the body restoration putting it back to berlinetta configuration from the Young Spyder conversion.

 

Exactly…
… and not to forget thorough in-person inspections combined with detailed photo documentation.
One of many reasons why I started using a paraphrase “A photograph can lie or misrepresent more than thousand words !” decades ago and my opinion about it hasn’t diminished since.
If anything, …

 

Here's what really happened: The two serial number tags for 1008 and 1046 were sold by Herbert Müller's son Daniel Müller on 26 March 1987 to Terry D. Bixler in USA. Bixler paid Daniel Müller Swiss Francs CHF 150'000 for the two small items. I have the receipt signed by both parties.

Marcel Massini

 

Bond, the name is Marcel Bond.

Regrds, Alberto

 

Girardo & Co. have now sold 1004.

Marcel Massini

 

#1040 - Watkins-Glen 1971.

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Bump, again.

Marcel Massini

 

still at Andales summer villa.
waiting for a pizza delivery then will answer all questions in detail and with supporting documents.

 

The worlds greatest Ferrari experts don't need no supporting documents!

 

terry,was the purchase agent,for mr. Marnell, serial tags attached to tubes as well as all related parts,jigs,bluprints ect.
all parts,arrived at motorkraft (bensenville,il) direct from mullers then sold from marnell to dyson. 5/88 i have all the paperwork. Larry Hajduk motorkraft

 

Le Mans 1970 & 1971 with the fantastic *Sunoco* at 19:20 :



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FAN.TAS.TIC.
Thank you.

Marcel Massini

 

yeah that is superb! thanks

 

absolutely GREAT ! ! !
thank you