As a consumer, this is almost my worst nightmare

suggested more training!!
how about rehiring qualified pilots united fired for not wanting the jab.

 

Happened before over San Francisco Bay. United friends told me. Pilot actually announced prep for water landing before he got engines relit.

Do not recall if it was 57,67 or 77. New airplane and during climb out fuel was shut off to both. OOOPS.

 

Yep, that means they ****ed up, knew they did, and self-reported so there would be no disciplinary action.

 

Qual Level 2: Recognizes and Corrects Own Errors. Probably needed two new seat cushions.

 

Maybe new seat cushions for the pax too, while they're at it........noisy climb-out suddenly gets very quiet......pilot asks can you swim?

 

if pilot self reported then what was the issue?

 

I used to fly United, but I get the impression that they haven't been very good since they took over Continental (or vice versa) and I wouldn't want to fly them now.

 

Details will be slow in forthcoming, obviously. A simple error, compounded by unfolding circumstances and events. Jet was recovered due to training and aircraft systems. I don’t know the makeup of the crew, it will also come out much later.

 

The article in the OP says 25000hr combined. Doesn't say how much in model.

 

How much water would you have to ingest to lose enough thrust to account for this drop?

I'm sure It's a combination of factors but is it possible to lose enough thrust to cause this?

 

No, there was no loss of thrust.

 

Probably a microburst

 

I'll put money that they were on auto takeoff and the auto throttles weren't set right. They ran out of air speed, their yokes started shaking and the plane began to stall. The training is to push the yoke forward/throttles up and hope that you have enough air to pull up after you get airspeed. In their case it was "only" a 1,000 foot incident. That said when you are at 2,000 feet and have a 1,000 foot incident.......it is serious pucker time.

Pilot error.....somebody got lazy.

 

WRONG!

 

Care to share your theory? "Additional training"=pilot error.

 

In the interest of full disclosure, I’m a 777 pilot for United and a retired USAF F-16 pilot. While I have some knowledge about what happened, I don’t have all the details at this point. There is an open flight safety investigation, and anything I do know is privileged and sensitive information. Had nothing to do with “ unprofessional “ or ‘ lazy” pilots.

Thankfully the jet was recovered and was not a mishap with loss of life. Overall the pilot training and safety programs at United are very good, and I’m NOT a UAL kool aid drinker.

 

While not perfect.....Juan does a decent job of pulling things together.

 

I’m surprised he speculated on what happened with so little information, he speculated wrong.

 

I guess that is a mistake we all make.... He is a 777 FO for American. Anyway he did show that the ground speed actually increased which takes a stall off the table. Looks like something caused it to nose dive.

 

FAA Call to Action! A new video from Juan that I think that all commercial pilots should watch:

 

Used to fly them both.

IMHO, Continental was the great airline and it was United that sucks! No longer have a favorite airline.