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The accountant & his refusal to perform a belt service. “It’s a fraud”

Discussion in '348/355' started by EFerrari34, Feb 3, 2023.

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  1. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Try adjusting that to 3-year intervals (therefore 7 engine outs) - the accountant was complaining about Ferrari's intervals, not FChat's made-up 7-year interval.

    My math gives me $41,000 - moral of the story is never debate an accountant....unless the debate is about major service on a Ferrari engine.
     
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    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Other way around - was 7 years, but was amended to 3-years
     
  3. JohnnyRay

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    That's not what has been stated throughout the greater FChat forum for 550s and others...
     
  4. Mitch Alsup

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    The Ferrari belt change interval covers using the car on race tracks maybe 50 times a year (once a week).
    The car in question does not have enough miles to fit under that use scenario.
     
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    Ditto here, you be the judge...no where does it specify or differentiate between tracked cars/non-tracked cars
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    Ummm...pretty sure these are superseded. Look at the effective date of 2004 - eighteen plus years ago. I believe that the belts and idlers have since moved to a more robust spec...thus the now longer recommended interval...
     
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    Ummm....instead of blowing hot air, why not post that "superseded" document....you know, since you are "pretty sure".
     
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    @Rifledriver , are you able to comment on the 4 posts preceding this one? Is there another bulletin that has been updated from a 3-year interval to one that is longer than 3-years?
     
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    Well then they are wrong.
     
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    Thank you.

    Furthermore, it makes me cringe that he says "what has been stated throughout FChat"....because, while we do have some experts here that do know what they are talking about, the misinformation is about a 75-25 ratio (IMHO) in favour of (unfortunately) the misinformation....which is why I refer back to the bulletin that came from Ferrari as opposed to the "what has been stated throughout FChat"

    If JohnnyRay is relying on what the majority here are recommending, then I would request that he posts his S/N here so that I stay clear of that model if I am ever in the market.
     
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    Because primarily of the 355 experience (too many belt failures prior to 5 years) Ferrari changed to 3 years on the intro of the 360. Then a TSB calling for it on all cars. It has zero to do BTW with track use. Thats BS. Ferrari has always had advanced intervals for cars seeing severe duty.
    After a change in belt manufacturing they put the 12's back up to 5 years.
     
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    Thank you (again). This is exactly what I had interpreted by the bulletin, that there is no difference between tracked and non-tracked. 3-years is 3-years is 3-years, tracked or not...they were quite specific in their bulletin, and no-where did it say x-years if you track, and y-years if you don't track:

     
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    And...so in other words, there is no bulletin after the one I posted above that supersedes to a longer interval....the current Ferrari certified interval is 3-years/30,000 miles?
     
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    Nope.

    The idlers are in fact worse. Its why Paul Hill is selling so many of his. No one in their right mind is using the Ferrari junk.

    Do not get your information from Ferrari chat. It is a cesspool of disinformation. Please, please ignore me and everyone else here and research it for yourself from Ferrari letterhead documents.
     
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    Not that I have ever seen and I try to keep up to speed on it. There is also the 12 cyl TSB of I think the same date #1203/A going back to 5 years.
     
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    Lol who is checking to see if numbers match on a 348? We're not talking concours quality F50 / 250 GTO here.
     
  18. JohnnyRay

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    Hey Acemaster! You are freakin' out. Take a chill pill, man. You are overboard...
     
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    Right. That who we buy them from. WTF...
     
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    Why be so caustic over a belt change? Hot air ? How disrespectful...
     
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    Ahhhhh......Finally another belt change argument thread, hot air and name calling. Covid must be over. Ferrari the most fragile' car ever made!
     
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    Iirc Ferrari actually started the 575 after a build date to go 5yrs on the current belt design. Everyone I know myself included see so little difference between the 550 and 575 that everyone is doing 5 years on the 550 using current belt design but the 550 was never in the original upping to 5 years.

    I was paranoid racing my 348. In the off season I changed that belt every year. The car lived at redline. The car was flawless once everything that did not make the car fast was removed.
     
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    There is a 308 on B.A.T. right now the owner bought the car in 95 and says he has never changed the belts and he says it runs fine, gotta wonder what some people are thinking.
     
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    I believe I saw a tsb that said belt change every 3.324 years,' dated last month. [emoji14]

    Not sure acemaster is being caustic. You had bad information, rumor really, and were sticking to it. He dispelled it, is all.

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  25. JohnnyRay

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    Yes. This is what I was referring to...in regard to the F116/F133 V12s. Thank you.

    I am generally interested in the recommendations for the V8 families as well; however, do not own one today. Good to know that they are still "recommended 3 year service" engines from a cost and frequency of maintenance perspective.
     

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