812 Market Dynamics

It's strange that in the UK the GTS prices haven't really changed much, even though there aren't really any cars for sale. Whoever has taken delivery seems intent on keeping their GTS (I don't blame them)

 

So what are they doing now?

 

1. only the highest spec cars will receive an allocation

2. if any orderable model exists where the dealer has available allocations, they will push you to order that model to get what you want...(same as before, but almost nothing is orderable at the moment)

 

Any thoughts on what the 167 might do to resale prices of the 812? Will it become more desirable or less desirable? Assuming the 167 is hybrid v12 that is.

 

Unless it’s an actual replacement, i.e., pure NA, why would the 812 not go up in value? It would be the last real 12?

 

True.. and obvious now that I think about it

 

And, if the F167 base price is substantial, it will not exert downward pressure on the 812SF, and, early on at least, ownership of an 812SF might be required to order the F167, reducing the pre-owned inventory, at least for a while.

Plus, there is the consideration of all the digital interior, some like it, some abhor, and all the new regulatory nannies to deal with, how with Ferrari handle those (forced automatic 'emergency' braking, 'intelligent' speed assistance, and the like, if too disruptive, it will repel buyers...who would then be attracted to the 812SF)

And then, there is the consideration of production availability, specifically, the V12 production. The best Ferrari ever did was 2,712 V12s in one year (per their annual reports, but you have to calculate it out as it is not specifically stated), here is the summary of the recent past of all V12 production:

2017: 2,712 V12 engines produced
2018: 2,240 V12 engines produced
2019: 2,442 V12 engines produced
2020: 2,208 V12 engines produced
2021: 1,824 V12 engines produced

Thus, if the Purosangue is taking up the majority of V12 production (which seems apparent), that will leave fewer V12s for other models including the F167, so, the F167 production, to me, will be severely constrained, maybe 500 per year (worldwide, at least until Purosangue V12 demand decreases...), meaning, hard to obtain and probably a very high base price.