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Official 328 GTB/GTS Market Thread

Discussion in '308/328' started by buckminster, Jul 1, 2013.

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  1. EDVTEC

    EDVTEC Karting

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    For tastes, the colors. There will be people who want to have a piece of art standing in their living room or garage and for them then it will be an amazing unit.

    In any case, you will have to add this unit to that fabulous list.
     
  2. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    She is already there: #80070; has been for sale for ages...

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  3. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    No, not really; it only seems that some options were more sought after in some markets than in others.
    Black leather was the most popular leather color in France and Italy, for instance, for Rosso Corsa cars; and Red carpets or Black carpets were both popular in France with Black leather. For most people in France and Italy, a red Ferrari must have a Black leather interior.
    Over the Atlantic, in the USA, "Tan" (= "Beige" in the factory parlance) was the most popular leather color for "rosso corsa" 3x8s, usually with "Castoro" carpets.
    In the UK, an overwhelming majority of Rosso Corsa 3x8s were ordered with "Crema" leather (= "off-white") that the Brits call "Magnolia" and with Red Carpets.
    So, just differences in tastes from country to country. Very few Red Carpets in U.S 3x8s.

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  4. hardtop

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    I had a '87 GTS red/tan with red carpets many moons ago. Later, I had a '89 GTB with the same colors. I was told some dealers routinely ordered red carpets. Uncommon but not rare in the US.
     
  5. 1bigfish

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    Tha
     
  6. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Had a look at my archives: last time I saw #80070 advertised was in May 2018, with 519 kms on the odometer, never registered, 199.000 € asked.
    Soooo....about 130.000 euros more in five years. Obviously, still hadn't turned a wheel.

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  7. lopena

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    The pretty Blue Chiaro 1989 328GTS just sold at Gooding & Co.’s Amelia Island auction for $185,000 (before buyer’s premium)…a strong price for a very nice 11,000 mile example.

    Alan
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  8. Gilles82

    Gilles82 Formula Junior

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    SOLD FOR $185.000



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  9. GLENN@TEAM AI

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    So $207,200 ALL-IN for the Blu Chiaro GTS! I will be the first to admit I am talking up my own book, but I have a Blu Chiaro 1989 GTB turbo with similar mileage available privately for slightly more money than this result. For those of you who have never driven the 2.0 liter turbo version of these cars, I wholeheartedly recommend them! They are like a mini 288 GTO - once you drive one you understand!
     
  10. bertrand328

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    #1936 bertrand328, Mar 12, 2023
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    I'm back with #67873 and this ad,

    the seller note the car as "comes with all books and manuals" but I have the warranty book of this car in my collection !
    So when I saw this ad I send a message but it's appear they don't really care of the book

    If some will buy this GTS I will be happy to supply THE book to the owner
     

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  11. st@ven

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    Most buyers only look for history. Printing these seems more profetable than printing money nowadays

    As long as most buyers are ignorant these sellers will continue with this

    I have a few. I always bought them with a propet assessment. I do not give a s**t about history as history does not tell anything about how the car was driven. And as long as theres money to be made by MAKING UP history, it happens, even with the most respecteble sellers

    If yoy do not have the knowledge do a propet ppi but do not simply trust a pile of papers.

    Not many will agree with me, that's fine with me.
     
  12. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Anyone knows the whereabouts of that poor car?
    No unhealthy interest from my part, just curious: if the car is indeed ZFFXA20A0J0078152 as she seems to be (enlarging the pic of the chassis number in the engine compartment), she might have lived a good part of her life in Europe...seems she was seen at the 4th Ferrari Day in Rümlang-Zürich, August 24th, 2003; and then I noted her for sale in Spain in April 2016, 45.250 kms (?) on an odometer in kms (?).
    What did happen in the meantime? Flooded? How did she come back to California?
    Curious...

    Regards

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/225515808712?hash=item3481ca27c8:g:eD4AAOSwzIhkL650&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwL6cTgFPXdesQb%2FF19ij2TygBNMJP8SMdozd%2Fpu7kE3GO%2B1Q%2Ba1cMupSgA5gVYjMZSEoZgWtm3NO4RRvpTBZMjzGvZ6CabCwsWHCdfKFtezivS0B2LaCOcihBKGT1Muw5kBisdJ10oTRLmXRnsVz9i3GThGxtqHxhYM8m4b17eXXOK%2Fbup7rmPTGKlF9Mh%2BimEbzqNQ80OWFbcsNoYMbJLixO3KS4RnuSOJdLIDdb72oL8JeJhbrn%2Fvt9fK70ZoHjg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6SBhLbrYQ
     
  13. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Sorry guys: ZFFXA20A7J0075152 it is.

    Can't believe that I didn't even check the wheels, which would have made it pre 76626...!

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  14. bertrand328

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    To my knowledge located in Illinois in 2000's and registered in Florida in November 2015

    Flood damage ?
     
  15. nerofer

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  16. audi_328

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    Any thoughts on this car? I might head down to MM tomorrow to take a look at it. It's a Japanese market car. All I can find is it sold last year at Bonham's; intrigued as it's an off-color (not red) GTB, pretty low miles, Bonham's says it's an 89 not an 87, which the wheels support. I'm not an expert but looks like the pass side of the rear deck doesn't sit flush, and 2 plate holes either side of the US plate. Any way to find out more about it? https://www.millermotorcars.com/1987-ferrari-328-gtb-c-6218/
     
  17. s219

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    Pretty in silver! I think $160K is optimistic unless there is some special history to the car (and it better have loads of records/documentation). The passenger side of the rear lid is likely raised up because they didn't latch it closed properly after taking engine photos. See that all the time in auction photos on BaT, etc.
     
  18. audi_328

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    I thought there might be something like that to the decklid; I've never owned a 328 but recall reading somewhere to use 2 hands to shut the decklid as it's aluminum. Agreed 160 is a bit optimistic - it went for 117 at auction not 6 months ago - but am doubtful car has any documentation beyond the quick once-over Miller gave it (in the ad). Can't seem to find anything anywhere online about it as far as history goes. Tried checking a Japanese market VIN lookup but didn't find any records, but not sure if I looked in the right place.

    It's an old, recently imported car, with likely no records, so am I correct in assuming it's all down to a thorough PPI?
     
  19. ragtop1

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    I thought Japanese cars were right-hand drive.
     
  20. audi_328

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    I would’ve thought so too, but apparently all Japanese market 308/328 models were LHD.
     
  21. s219

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    It takes a healthy amount of momentum to latch the rear lid, more than I was comfortable at first. Best option is to throw it downward with conviction, with a hand on each corner, from about 16-24" up. Manually pressing on the lid risks denting the sheetmetal (seen a lot of 308/328 cars with finger-patterned dents along the rear lip unfortunately).

    Some level of PPI and/or inspection by a knowledgeable enthusiast is always recommended. I also happen to think records/documents are very important for any cars at this level of cost/value and collector status. I got a 2" binder of records/documents with my 328, including original window sticker, original sales invoice and "sold" tag, and paperwork from 1st and 2nd owners (I am #3). I feel like it's an important collection of history and expect it will enhance the car's appeal to future owners when the time comes for me to sell.
     
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  22. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    That car is indeed Japanese (it's written in the VIN with the letters "JAP" in the VIN); the chassis number makes it a November 1988 build; all Japanese-market 328 were indeed Left-Hand Drive; they have the same catalysed engine as the US cars.

    According to my archives, it was sold at an auction in Dec 2015 marked “accident damage, repaired”, which in itself is not a "No-No", provided the car has been professionnaly repaired according to the rules; furthermore, it depends what damage, the extent of it, etc...so check the available history and documentation.

    Has been for sale in Europe for quite sometime in different countries since: Netherland, Belgium, the U.K...

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  23. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Indeed; the Japanese are purists, they like their exotics exactly as they are on the roads of their country of origin. So yes, all Japanese-market 328s were Left Hand Drive. Japanese 328s are more or less the same as the US-market model: same engine (catalysed) but euro rear-view mirrors and front side indicator repetitors lights.
    The Japanese market is unfortunately very difficult to know well; a sizeable part of the 328 production, about 10%, was made for the Japanese market, but there were also cars imported there from the european markets, and even from the middle-east. Unfortunately, we lack a comprehensive knowledge of the serial numbers, so it's quite patchy, actually.

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