Scuderia Ferrari 2023

He missed your post a few years ago here. Sad. Probably forgot his password lol

 

I'm sure he's got a performance clause, pretty much all of them do. Problem is that I'd be extremely surprised if there's a get out clause that's anything less than top 3 (with it's current performance the car is comfortably top 2).

 

Oh well, there's always next year.

 

Ferrari is such a dumpster fire. Their management is garbage and they should feel like garbage. At this rate, I hope Leclerc goes to another team. They don’t deserve him.

 

Don't you read the automotive industrial news?
V12s NA won't be able to meet emission restrictions before long.
Only turbo engines will be able to, and maybe hybrids, and only for a few years.
Also most manufacturers have to downsize ICEs, to observe the carbon limits.
It's pointless to invest in a new engine that will soon be banned.
Why do you think Lamborghini is abandoning V12 NA, or McLaren goes hybrid?
Ferrari cannot escape that. Sorry to break the bad news for you.

 

The incoming new Lamborghini has a V12, a new engine also. It's hybrid, to go with the times. I'd say they still have at least a decade, probably more as there is lot of talk about postponing the ban on petrol cars.

 

Emission norms change every few years. At the moment we are with Euro 5, but the incoming Euro 6 norm will stricter.
It will be followed by Euro 7, 8, etc ... until the ICE ban come in force in 2035.
This is to force manufacturers to processively produce cleaner engines, and steer the market towards electrification.
In the long run, the zero emission target cannot be achieved with fossil fuel.

 

Understand.


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Yes, there will be a temporary provision to protect the cottage industry.
BTW, the EU calls "small manufacturers" those who produce less than 1000 cars per year.
Donkervoort, Caterham, Noble, Radical, Bugatti, or Pagani may qualify, but not Ferrari which produces near to 10 000.

 

... Until the smart accountants and lawyers in Maranello comes up with a "Ferrari Sport SpA" spinoff company, producing exactly 999 cars a year

 

Binotto departure not beneficial
When Binotto left after the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix last year, a power vacuum was created. The design of the 2023 car suffered considerably here. There is a climate of fear and that another reason why big foreign engineers are reluctant to come to Ferrari. No one dares to take responsibility for risky choices. The development of the SF23 is said to have ended early, without examining some of the ideas that were on the table. At least, those are the noises in the Italian media.

 

Sure hope he stays, he's by far the best thing we've got right now...can you guys imagine Ferrari in the hands of sainz? Of course you can, we can watch it every other weekend...and it aint pretty!

 

In every department that Fred could intervene, Ferrari is already better than last year (at least it was in the first race), so kudos to him, keep on the good work! Mattia did zero to improve the team, he had awhole year, pitstop crew were growing slow and fat, startegy was the worse on the whole grid and the worse i have seen since williams in 94/95, cars had a serious problem to launch of the grid.....

 

If Leclerc leaves Ferrari, we're in big trouble. I like Sainz but he's just missing that star quality that the likes of Leclerc and Verstappen have. Those are two you can count on to make moves and defend that bit harder, a rare day they don't get the ultimate from a car.

The only upside I see for now is that any move Leclerc CAN make is a move sideways or backwards, in which case he's better off at the team he loves, despite the pain.

 

I do have to say the pit stops are way better. Cl had the fastest last weekend. 2.2

 

Probably that Binotto should never have been made team principal, but kept as technical director.
Leading the Scuderia is a political role, and Binotto wasn't cut for it, IMO.
Now he is gone, and Ferrari "has thrown the baby with the bathwater" and lost a talented engineer in the process.

 

Binozzo did what he was good at effectively, improving the car and the internal workings of the team. The race craft suffered because he’s technical and flourished there. Here we are now and the race craft improved because Vasseur is good at that and not a technical leader.

From what I heard Binozzo clawed and leveraged his way to the TP role. It is not necessarily Ferrari throwing the baby out with the bathwater. His ego was not going to allow anything that appeared as a demotion in any way shape or form. Ferrari knew they had to make a change. Here we are.

 

I don't know who wrote this, but probably was the intern. When Binotto left the car design was finished and already under construction.

For good or for bad, Vasseur is running Binotto's car.

 

This was always the case. As far as the car being finished - up to what point and what proof do we have. We have no real idea. Updates and good strategy and driving are what we will need. Effective updates in relation to RedBull pace.

 

Taking on Horner and Newey is like a bunch of athletes taking on Usain Bolt every 2 weeks, they may get the odd win. Tough job.

A lot has been said about Aldo Costa being the brains behind the Mercedes dominance, it has to be remembered that he benefited from years of continous development well before he was sacked a Ferrari.

Although his track record is good, it needs to be exceptional, he is a hugely experienced F! engineer but his term at Ferrari was marginally successful but thats it. IMHO he is not a innovator more copying the guy next door.

Who does that leave? Ferrari will just get the scraps and guys who are mediocre, the talent has gone leaving one guy who is master of his craft.

Leclerc will be destined to be another Pironi, Villeneuve, Arnoux, Alesi, Berger. All WDC material but let down by a team that couldnt organise a drinks contest in a pub.

I said at the time it was a huge error to let Binotto go, at least let him finish off his 22 design for the 23 season and see the results FIRST.........


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Are we witnessing a Scuderia meltdown in the making, or are they deliberate lay-offs from Vasseur, hmm..

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Yup I'm leaning towards deliberate sackings at this point.

Cardile said the chassis was completely redesigned for the 23. Sanchez said massive aero improvements. Mekies should've known this all.

Initially I thought the Sanchez move was an overreaction but now I think less so. Again...this should've happened 6 months ago. We now need new people and gardening leave is typically 6 months.

We're quickly reaching the point that the first time we can really challenge for a title is indeed 2026.