308 with sprint pack option, anyone have one?

My 89 s Fuel injection works spot on , I have never ever had an issue with the fueling .

Big G

 

I have never had a lick of problem with mine either

But the throttle response sucks ass compared to carbs

 

Im not sure what you mean Dr. When I press the throttle, I feel the response is perfect. Its not direct fuel injection, its electro mechanical, so in that respect, for an 89 it does quite well. Ferrari would not have put that system in place if it did not perform better than a carbed car. My car has never had an issue with the way it runs, its been perfect in its consistency , all the way to the 7800 RPM redline.

G

 

It wasn't put in because it performed better, it was used to meet new emission requirements. I have driven K-jet cars since I was 17, My Scirocco had it. 100% trouble free for decades.

But the difference in throttle response between the two systems is without question. You wouldn't know until you spend time is a properly set up carbed car.

 

No they are not new and do not have liners.


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Are you thinking about buying a carb 308 or going for ITB's, which provide you with all the benefits of carbs whilst mitigating most of the downsides?

 

To be brutally honest with you, they were lousy pistons and I'd never dream of putting one in a motor.
Their best use is to clean them up and give them away as paperweights.

 

Carbed B

 

I feel the same, love the two carbed cars I have, K jet hardly gets driven

 

Carbs are great museum pieces. No reason for them to have existed in the automotive world past 1970. Earlier really but I am being generous. Most car manufacturers were getting really lazy and dong very little tech advancement. In retrospect we were really lucky they quit using cotton cord tires on their own.

We really have to thank emission regulation for the level of performance we have now. Without the requirements 4 valve engines and electronic engine management would still be unknown except for a few European makes.

 

You are comparing 2 ancient technologies. Modern digital electronic makes them both look like relics from the Victorian era.

Who in the world still uses carbs on race engines or any high performance application when not required by the rule book?

A carb on its very best day only approximates what is best for the engine and even then only here and there in the operational envelope. There are many very good reasons they went the way of the dinosaur.

 

Anything that needs a laptop kinda scares me. Especially when replacing something as hard core dependable as what I have now.

That's why I have been looking around for a carbed B, mainly just for the rawness and noise.

 

A 512 TR takes a lot less to keep it running right than a carbed 308. Modern engines are far less maintenance intensive than the museum pieces.

You can weld the hood shut on most modern cars. Not so for carbs and conventional ignition.

You want intake noise? Drive a 512TR.

 

It would be lighter, have better weight distribution and be much faster with an injected Chevy crate motor.

I had a 200 HP 510 with a pair of DCOE 45's on it. If I knew then what I know now it would have been injected NAPZ engine and that garbage ignition system would have been in a dumpster.

 

I have heard a story from an old local mechanic here in Australia where the owner sourced and had them retrofit a sprint pack to his 308. From all accounts the mechanic said that the car went like a rocket after the mods however the owner took it back to the workshop a week later only to revert the cams to stock due to the poor streetability.

 

Its too bad Ferrari did not make the ignition on the 308 / 328 s as good as Nick Forzas improvement for these cars. I would love to have that set up, Im just not willing to change the look under the lid, or spend the money for , if I remember correctly ,another 20 HP.

G

 

Sure : https://www.instagram.com/p/CpmPPWgIZaa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

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A little off topic, but is it possible to convert a QV car with Digiplex 803a boxes to MSD? If so, any details???

I have searched forums and haven't seen this conversion. Thanks

 

Better but only good way is to eliminate that Victorian distributor completely.

 

Are you comfortable with the XDi system that Nick offers?

 

I really don't know anything about it. Except in a car I wanted to keep stock looking any ignition system I'd be interested in would no longer need the points and would have electronic advance. Anything less would be a waste of time.