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360 relay #89

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Mel Spillman, Mar 17, 2023.

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  1. Mel Spillman

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    Is this relay (#89 cut-out of start-up with battery charger) suppose to be warm all the time?
     
  2. Qavion

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    #2 Qavion, Mar 17, 2023
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    It should only be energised when the OEM charger is in use. If you're not using the OEM 4 pin charger plug, it shouldn't be energised. What sort of charger do you have?
    During normal off-charger running, it should be deenergised, allowing the starter relay (#91) coil to energise during start. i.e. during start, it should momentarily have a small current flowing through it to the starter relay coil.

    Could it just be warm from heat conduction or is it at hot as, say, relay #90? That should be toasty during normal running ops.

    https://www.dropbox.com/t/2T3gf7MAuxBYIDQu

    (see 5H fuse/relay block)

    (Spider diagram uploaded ... as it matches your relay numbers)

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  3. Qavion

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    #3 Qavion, Mar 17, 2023
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    P.S. I mentioned this relay here (to you):

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/149031596/

    but I didn't realise at the time that you had different relay numbers. I was waiting for you to confirm that the relay numbers in the previous post were the same as on your car.
     
  4. Mel Spillman

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    Ian: You are just a wealth of knowledge!! I am using the OEM charger and leave it connected all the time. I took it off the charger for a while and it (#89) still felt a little warm and that is what concerned me. I just changed relay # 91 with a new one but have not taken the car out for a test drive to see if my starting problem when hot re-occurs. Also, my relays are the same as your diagram. Thank you again for all your info.,
     
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  5. hessank

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    Yes, I totally agree what you said about Ian. So much electrical knowledge Image Unavailable, Please Login

    Usually, when a relay is not in service (not required to be energized) and found to be warm is a sure tell tale that it is fully or partially latched.
    That is sometimes how you find a source for battery drain; feel the relays
     
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  6. Qavion

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    nah…. I just know how to read my own home made diagrams. It’s the hidden bits inside the components (and the mechanical bits attached to electrical bits) which baffles me :confused:
     

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