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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by DM1, Jan 21, 2018.

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  1. KZEVO

    KZEVO Karting

    Jul 25, 2021
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    Well said!
     
  2. FFan5

    FFan5 Formula Junior

    Jul 7, 2018
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    In the past year, the US has gone from 0% yield, and the money supply expanding at 12.5% per year, to 4.25% yield and the money supply actively shrinking for the first time since 1934. What's that mean? The dollar has gone from hot trash to more valuable by the day this year. Until the money supply is expanding again and the Fed pivots, there is no way in hell the price of US based Speciales are going up, unless it is for export. I'd either sell immediately l or just enjoy your car!
     
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  3. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

    Aug 17, 2019
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    Fed pivot could be around the corner, its getting increasingly more difficult to get hold of special series, new car prices are sky rocketing, new regulations forcing news cars to be quieter and less emotional and unlikely to see another naturally aspirated v8 like the speciale. I wouldn’t bet on prices coming down massively. They may soften a little bit / stay there until it resumes its trajectory again which is up. The same applies to special series v12. What i find is that the ferrari special series / collector car market has proved to be very decoupled from the fed monetary policy and to stocks and cryptos. While the latter crashed this year limited edition ferraris such as the tdf, competizione have seen on the contrary price rises. Same with f40, enzo and f50. Those cars are becoming for the wealthy a safe diversification regardless of monetary policy .. this is just the beginning.
     
  4. SD455TA

    SD455TA Formula Junior

    Agreed, the limited edition hence small production numbers create a floor underneath prices and that is what makes the market. Can't worry about when the Fed is pivoting or any of that. That is fine for discounting future flows in the stock market but of little or no value to the collector car market. I am happy to own my Speciale Aperta and will certainly not sell it on some unknown black swan or crowded bearish markets. Right about one thing, I will enjoy the car, its both art and science.
     
  5. Eilig

    Eilig F1 Rookie
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    If they go up in value, our money is safe. We win.
    If they go down in value, we can buy more. We win.
    No matter what, a win-win.
    Great car. Beautiful, fun, emotional, spectacular 14:1 CR NA 9k rpm ICE. Biggest wins of all.
     
  6. JTSE30

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  7. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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  8. Wow, that's a beautiful car.

    1100 miles. Literally 100 miles a year.

    So sad.
     
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  9. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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  10. FFan5

    FFan5 Formula Junior

    Jul 7, 2018
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    What's that net to the owner?
     
  11. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
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    BAT charges a fixed $99.00 seller listing fee, the net is the balance; The buyer pays 5% up to a maximum of $5000.
    But this was a no-sale auction, reserve not met so seller net is -$99.
     
  12. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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  13. Stams

    Stams Formula Junior
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  14. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 9, 2008
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    Should be interesting… following


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  15. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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  16. JTSE30

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  17. Stams

    Stams Formula Junior
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    I was very surprised as well. Smoked lights and black badges a curse?


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  18. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
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    Oct 22, 2013
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    Seemed like a low price indeed - looks like it could have gone higher but one of the bidders apparently had connectivity issues when bidding.

    Nonetheless, it is surprising that the seller had such a low reserve.
     
  19. SD455TA

    SD455TA Formula Junior

    Not to mention that it had gone through 4 owners ALREADY and the new buyer is the FIFTH!
     
  20. MKS0129

    MKS0129 Karting

    Mar 4, 2022
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    Seemed right on the money. 10,000 mile car with a few distasteful mods. Easily reservable but Ferrari parts aren't cheap. I paid mid 500's min with 1500 miles. If I can drive another 8,000 miles and only lose 100k that would be great!
     
  21. ONEOFEW

    ONEOFEW Formula Junior

    Jan 19, 2006
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    $100 over MSRP for a driver quality Speciale with mods and 4 owners. I say the seller is very happy.
     
  22. DM1

    DM1 Formula 3
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    Nov 9, 2006
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    Any new sales in the Speciale market ?
     
  23. Eilig

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    2.5k mile $305k MSRP US car sold for $545k, confirmed
     
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