Data that you dont show? i can show you detailed graphs and teams own data from f1technical dissagreeing wiht you...... If you can prove other wise, show it instead of just saying it.
I would seriously like to see you prove that the Manor is the 4th fastest car of all time. You posted the article, lets have at it. I could use a good laugh.
I've posted multiple replies filled with data and facts. Not my fault you choose to ignore them or dismiss them.
i dont see any facts, i see just an opinion, ive linked lap times, shown you exactly how Vettel lost the title, and dispite ****ing up 6 races at THE END OF THE SEASON, you still claim Vettel lost the title because Merc was dominate LOL.. Its like Vettel got sacked because he hit his targets and had a fantasticly succesfull time at Ferrari that he insists he FAILED, but ok. your right with your OPINION, ill just stick to what the driver him self says, and his team.
What facts are those? so when ferrari CEO says they lost because of " Ferrari’s defeat to Mercedes in both Formula 1 championships this year was down to a combination of “technical issues and driver error”, according to CEO and chairman Sergio Marchionne." Hes wrong because SS454 of ferrari chat none member of ferraris f1 team, says he has more data than that of Mr Marchianne, the CEO of ferrari.. OK WE ALL BELIEVE YOU............... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
So…now the “Lewis isn’t worthy” brigade is trying to prove the M-B WAS the best carin the 2017 and 2018 seasons? Which would show that Lewis isn’t good…got it I do admire the sticktoitiveness of the anti-Lewis crowd…you guys would make a terrier jealous.
Six charts which reveal 2017's best and worst teams - F1 Fanatic (racefans.net) 2018 F1 season in statistics: Car performance - RaceFans Statistics are weird aren't they.
Stating the truth, and refuting exagerations doesn't make one a Hamilton fanboy It's too easy to label those you simply want to put the church back in the middle of the village.
Every single piece of data I've posted is factual. Go back and read them. I've posted stats, results, lap times comparisons. These are all forms of data. Yet you want to call them opinion? I've debunked your list of Vettel mistakes. Your OPINION that Vettel/Ferrari not making any of these mistakes means guaranteed victories is complete nonsense. Also I've mentioned before you seem to only focus on Ferrari having a perfect season, yet you don't want to erase Lewis/Mercedes poor races. I also never said Vettel lost the title because Mercedes was dominant. I said Mercedes had the fastest car when averaged over the entire season, I've said they developed into a dominant car, and I said they had a dominant season. As a matter of fact I said Vettel could have won the championship if it wasn't for Singapore and Japan. Despite not having the fastest car. Pretty impressive. You said you linked laptimes, I saw the one link from China. It compares the final 20 laps of the race where Hamilton was in control in the lead, and Vettel was pushing as hard as he could recovering from behind. Do you really think that's a fair comparison? Are you of the same belief that all the races Hamilton won by 30+ seconds were him pushing 100%, or now when Max win's with easy, do you think he's at 100% attack? Come on, you should know better than that.
I guess you have already forget that I said I don't base my opinions off what people say. I would be embarrassed to make a claim that Ferrari had the fastest car based off the comments from the CEO of Ferrari that don't even say "Ferrari was the fastest", and yet Mercedes claimed 15 poles in 20 races. Mercedes had to be pretty fast to give Bottas 4 poles and 3 wins in his first year with the team, against the driver you so badly want to think is the best of all time.
Some members on this forums defend Hamilton - no matter what. Other members on this forum attack Hamilton - no matter what. Pot. Kettle. BTW, what has been said in 274 pages (so far) could have been said in less than 10, the rest is a waste of bandwidth by repeating the same tune over and over again.
To my eyes, the only problem was a non winning Ferrari those two years.. Again Vettel underperformed and Ferrari wasn’t at Mercedes level for 60 percent of the season in 2017 and 2018. Congrats to Mercedes and Lewis for winning 4 titles in two years. Period.
Mercedes designed and built a car capable of winning and thats an issue here LOL. Guess RedBull will need to watch themselves on Fchat soon. Mark Webber said it best during MS era - Dont like MS winning - Drive faster. Applies during Mercedes period and now with RedBull. The silly budget - makes small teams-worth-more - limit, makes true competition difficult today. So much for that................
This is not even in the same zipcode of pot/kettle. FACT is Hamilton has won more races and is a 7-time WDC. And all the handwringing you guys do on "Lewis is lucky/M-B was the best car/FIA hamstrung the other's (in particular, Ferrari)/etc" does not change THAT reality. But keep at it with the shoulda/woulda/coulda. I am not a Hamilton "fan club" member...I just appreciate an athlete when they do great things.
Me too, i mean, i 'm used to hear some crazy stuff around here, but this is flat earth theory level!!!
Stop talking is the hardest thing to do at Ferrari. They are always justifying themselves, and promising the moon. Mind you, it must be contegious, other teams start doing it now; I blame Netflix ...
Zak Brown,Otmar and Steiner must justify their huge salaries indeed. But with the budget cap they have no real excuses anymore.. Now everybody realizes one major unpredictable aspect of this financial rule. The less efficient teams could not compensate their lack of competence with huge spending. It will be worse compared with the nightmare token system I fear ..
If that's directed at me, your passive/aggressive deal is pretty sad. My "preferred" driver doesn't enter into it (I don't have one). My contributions to this thread have been to point out (without getting banned) some of the "hiding in plain sight" reasons for the hatred of Hamilton by you guys.
