F1 2023 Monaco Pre-Race Thread

Inspired to park my at kayak at Monaco after seeing this.

 

Chuck's special Monaco GP lid.

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Remember that they started the first 2022 test with a car with conventional sidepods? They might have used that car as starting point.

 

lol!

 

highly doubt that...those side pods where clearly place holders and very different aerodynamic concept

 

https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/partners/iveco

 

Nice........but without santander and estrella galicia logo's it will be much better...

 

Update: tvracer now shows the complete broadcast schedule

 

Weather update for Sunday: they've largely taken the chance of thunder back out of the forecast. I wonder if "light rain" throughout will still result in drainage problems.

Cloudy with periods of light rain. Thunder possible. High 72F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%.

 

The simple helmet designs are the most elegant. I’m worn out on all the over-wrought artwork.

 

Has anyone commented yet on this proposed lengthening of the circuit which would provide an ideal outbraking zone?

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/are-f1s-current-cars-too-big-for-monaco/10472483/

Are F1's current cars too big for Monaco?
Throughout its 70-plus years on the Formula 1 calendar, Monaco has been burdened with the reputation of being a venue not particularly conducive to racing and overtaking.

There's definitely a case to be made that F1 has outgrown Monaco as a venue, but that may simply be a case of perception - after all, many people questioned Monaco's place on the calendar even when the cars were considerably smaller.

Let's take overtakes as a metric of how well the cars have been able to race each other around Monaco, with contextual elements marked on the below graph of overtakes per season to illustrate their effect.

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The figures in 1993's race were boosted by Alain Prost's recovery drive after a penalty and a stall following a jump start, but action remained high despite the wide-track cars. The cars were generally smaller and more nimble, and thus better suited to dealing with the Monaco circuit compared to those that would follow.

Refuelling regulations brought a sharp decline in overtaking figures, as teams figured that they could do their passing in the pits with a better strategy rather than try to mount a risky pass on track. The 1997 and 2008 peaks came in wet races, while the attritional nature of 1996 did not yield many passes.

The ability to move up the field through fuel strategy largely masked the early days of the narrow-track regulations, although 2005 and 2006 proved that overtaking could be managed if the field was bunched up by the safety car. Michael Schumacher's 2006 recovery drive from the back of the grid, after being thrown out of qualifying for parking his Ferrari at the Rascasse, admittedly pumped up the latter case's figures.

When refuelling was ditched in 2010 there was not an initial improvement in passing numbers, but from 2011 onwards there was a rise to more consistent double-figure totals. This coincided with the addition of DRS, but it is generally agreed that the overtaking aid is of limited use on the start-finish straight.

Figures immediately dropped with the return to wide-track cars from 2017 and beyond. The length and width - and therefore, weight - of the cars had grown and the cars had become much more ponderous as a result.

At full lock with a normal setup, needed to navigate the Fairmont hairpin, the current cars aren't able to make the corner. Modifications are usually made to the suspension arms to ensure the wheels can turn enough.

With the sole Monaco race following the change in aerodynamic regulations having been run in wet-dry conditions, it's too early to say definitively if the current crop of cars are no longer equipped to deal with the circuit. 2023 needs a dry race to showcase the current generation's true abilities, although that looks unlikely given forecasts in the area suggest rain across the grand prix weekend.

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29 overtakes were completed in a dramatic 1993 Monaco Grand Prix - a total not since matched.

Photo by: Motorsport Images

But the science suggests that smaller, lighter cars are better equipped for the Monaco circuit, as the inertia is reduced and thus the driver can benefit from a much more direct steering characteristic. Theoretically, this would allow for more pinpoint overtakes and defensive moves, rather than barrelling down the inside and hoping that the car stops.

There's a very clear decline in our metric of the ability to battle on-track since the regulations changed in 2017. By comparison, Formula E - running at a 1700mm width - can claim over 100 overtakes per race at Monaco in a 45-minute race. To say "you can't overtake in Monaco" is disingenuous, then; if F1 ever opted for a return to smaller cars, Monaco stands a chance of producing decent races...

 

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Looks interesting but I would removed the parked cars and motorcycles first.

 

It looks good, but is it feasible ?

I thought the circuit could be extended on the West side, towards Rascasse.

 

Tim lives here in Atlanta. nice guy! still wish he'd get me more Paddock Passes!

 

I while I like the changes- I'm not sure those apartment buildings would have any other access. The streets towards Menton are very narrow and I think the only ones that are at sea level... the beach over there actually runs back into France... so you would be right on the actual border... Extending down from Rascasse could be an option - just not sure how wide the pier areas are.

 

I thought there would be extending the harbour South of La Rascasse by gaining land over the sea.
That to give more room for pleasure boats, and build hotels and more accomodations too.
It would be a collossal undertaking, but there were whispers, that the circuit could be benefiting from it.
There was a video about it, but I can't find it now.