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1987 Ferrari 412 GT Chassis 67463

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  1. samsaprunoff

    samsaprunoff F1 Rookie
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    Good day All,

    Just documenting these cars, as they come up...

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-ferrari-412-gt-3/

    Chassis 67463 was discussed briefly back in 2009 in another thread, but I thought a dedicated thread might be best.
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/412-engine.239522/page-2#post-138604920

    Cheers,

    Sam

    1987 Ferrari 412 GT (5 Speed) Modified with LS-2 Chevy Engine
    Color: Was originally Grigio Exterior with Tan Interior, now Camouflage Wrap with Black Interior
    Mileage: 40483
    Location: Virginia, USA
    VIN: ZFFYD25B000067463
    Chassis: 67463

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  2. Marcel Massini

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    67463:
    Auction info is incorrect.
    No 412 GT ever was born Grigio Ferro.
    67463 was born Grigio Metallizzato.
    Factory completion date 23 October 1986.
    First owner Steve McLaughlin who picked it up directly in Maranello.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  3. Theruse

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    If anyone questioned why Ferrari is going after celebrities and others who modified current Ferrari's, here's their justification.
     
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  4. OttoB

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    So if I understand your perspective, owners of their cars are not allowed to modify the cars they paid for in the way that pleases them? I may be mistaken, but you certainly sound as if your opinion is better than the owner of this particular car?
     
  5. raemin

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    My own car was repainted yellow because the factory would not deliver it in this colour. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but not horrendous either. This being said this particular car, is too much for me.

    There are a few interesting modification, I can even appreciate the technical achievement, but the overall result lacks consistency. This plus misplaced pride and an assumed diregard for the work of the original designers.

    A stock looking classic Ferrari with a modern powertrain could be an interesting proposition. If the seller wants to recoup his investment he should consider more subtle bodywork and upholstery.
     
  6. samsaprunoff

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    Good day Raemin,

    The owner's original investment is anyone's guess. However, there is certainly interest in the car, as it has already reached over $44K with 5 more days to go. It will be interesting to see what value it does fetch, as it is a no-reserve auction and compare this price to the clean/original 412 that sold a month ago for $185K.

    Although this car is not to my taste, I tend to remember all the various mods, wings, flairs, wild colors, mechanical, etc that were done to F-cars in the 80's... At that time bolder was not as frowned upon as it is now. I, too, partially embraced some changes to my cars at that time... by installing the 80's "requisite" nice stereo which needed door panels to be cut for the appropriate speakers... shudder... However, times, styles, and attitudes change along with people.

    The positive about this car is that it was completed and looks to be operating well. There has been a number of perfectly working cars were simply torn apart for someone's project that stalled at some point leaving a partially dismembered car that few would be or are interested in.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
  7. 360modena2003

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    This is the way to do it...



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  8. bjwhite

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    All of our opinions are better than the owner of this particular car. hahaha. Hideous.
     
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  9. OttoB

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    Opinions are like bellybuttons - everyone has one. However, I don’t feel one person’s (or those coming from several) are better than someone else’s, which remains my point of view.
     
  10. Theruse

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    Otto B. Yes you are mistaken. If you read my post correctly, I am not stating my opinion but rather that of Ferrari.
     
  11. bjwhite

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    Yes but some are correct opinions, and some are clearly wrong. ;)
     
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  12. James in Denver

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    Man, that wrap is sooooo not cool... BUT... a quick google search reveals that "wraps" can be removed with careful (very careful) application of heat and pulling (gently)...

    https://vvividshop.com/blogs/tips-and-tricks/how-to-safely-remove-vinyl-wrap-off-your-car

    Hope the new owner removes the camo and "restores" the car to the rightful color, Grigio Ferro (per the factory sticker)! :)

    PS Don't know why the auction shows a factory color sticker showing "Grigio Fer 700/C" (picture 121 on BAT) when Marcel indicates it's Grigio Metallizzato. Maybe a replacement sticker?

     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    Grigio Fer 700/C is Grigio Ferrari. NOT Ferro. Ferrari Grey.
    Ferrari and Ferro is NOT the same. Ferro means steel.
    How stupid can people be?

    Marcel Massini
     
  14. raemin

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    Removing the camo INTERIOR is probably going to be harder...Restoring the backseat could also be a daunting task.
     
  15. JohnMH

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    Removing the powertrain and going back to stock will be even harder. Donor car at this point. Sad.
     
  16. raemin

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    This car does not have many valuable parts left: most of the expensive bits have already been sold (this could have help to pay for the mods).
     
  17. James in Denver

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    Wasn't meaning to question your expertise Marcel.
     
  18. peterp

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    I'm an originality nut, almost to a fault, but save for the wrap (owner can do anything he wants, but not to my taste and it will likely will lower final price I would think) and ditching the red race race seat belts, this seems like it would be a fun car to own and drive the wheels off of, assuming the integration is done right. I haven't had time to look at the YouTube videos, but will check them out when time avails.
     
  19. James in Denver

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    Sold for $66,000
     
  20. 360modena2003

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    Very good result considering everything...

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  21. peterp

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    Seems like a pretty good result for both the buyer and seller. The car should be a lot of fun to own. I hope the buyer will drive the wheels off of it as a daily or near daily -- I know I would.

    Of course, it would always be nice if these cars where restored back to original, but the horse (no pun intended) is out of the barn on this one -- and the conversion looks to be very well done in nearly all respects. I can't find a way to like the camo wrap or seat belts personally, but both are easy to change if the buyer chooses to.
     
  22. bjwhite

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    You sure? They were both 700C, even though the name varied.
     

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