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  1. amenasce

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    Did he drive it?
     
  2. Marcel Massini

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    FA is/was not the first and original owner.
    That can also make quite a difference, for some.

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  3. Garretto

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    Yeah I can see that!
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    The auction company on their website claims 129761 is the very first Enzo built........
    Which, of course, is not correct. 129761 has a body stamped "1" (one).
    But two other Enzos have the same body number "1" as well (128011 and 128778).
    129761 is actually the 63rd Enzo built (by chassis number).

    Marcel Massini
     
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  5. hoymatriculado

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    Thought it was strange when they announced it as the first enzo built, but didn't think much of it at the time.
    In the classiche book (made in 2011 for this car) it appears as "Scocca 1" maybe thats why the auction is advertising it as the first enzo built.


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  6. Marcel Massini

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    AGAIN: two other Enzos have the same number "1" as well (128011 and 128778).

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  7. hoymatriculado

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    I never said otherwise ;). Just saying that maybe the auction house really thinks its the first enzo, and that is why they are advertising it that way. As you said this is nowhere near the first enzo built.
     
  8. Birel

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    It is a USA version so should be straightforward?
     
  9. joe sackey

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    Straightforward, in fact there will be interest from the USA in this car.
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    Alonso Enzo NOT sold tonite at Monaco.

    There were 39 Ferraris on offer in total, of which 24 did not sell.

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  11. joe sackey

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    Seller's expectations too high?
     
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  12. Marcel Massini

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    And basically zero bidders.

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  13. dariedell

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    Preliminary results show 15/39 sold, 38% sell-through rate, not good at all but also not unsurprising for a brand-new auction house. I'm reminded of Keno Brothers' New York City 2015 sale with a 43% sell-through during the auction, another first-timer with high-end cars that didn't get traction. We'll see if Monaco actually sticks around, unlike Keno. I don't know anything about them. Actually there is a similarly-named Monaco Legends Auctions that did one classic car sale in 2016 and then immediately switched to auctioning watches instead. And then I can think of Rand Luxury (2019, NY, another one-timer) and RL Neo Classics (2016, HK, who got 2 auctions in before giving up) among others. It's a tough business. Broad Arrow Monterey 2022 we all obviously know wasn't really 'new' so their story is a little different.
     
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  14. Birel

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    I think the Monaco catalogue was extremely light in detail, looks like lazy effort.
     
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  15. Marcel Massini

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    Very few catalog photos, basically zero history for any of the cars on offer, and the selection of cars........ well, almost all of those had been on the market for months and years already.
    Why should they sell suddenly in Monaco, at inflated estimates, with a high commission to be paid on top, if they haven't sold earlier already?

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  16. Bas

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    what was the high bid on the enzo? or starting bit even.
     
  17. joe sackey

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  19. LVP488

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    I do not know if anyone can confirm (or deny) it, but several web sites (probably only one originally, then blindly copied by others without any further confirmation) report that the not-sold-at-auction former Alonso Enzo sold post-auction for EUR 5.4M.
    To give some perspective on the reliability of the information, they also all claim it was the first Enzo built.
     
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  20. Bas

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    Sounds like thr typical bs spread by instagram users in order to raise the value of the cars. Been common practise for a while now. Lots of unverified cars "selling" for record amounts, lol
     
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    https://monacocarauctions.com/vente-du-8-juin

    If it's the same Enzo, it appears as sold:
    Enzo
    ROSSO CORSA . 2011 . 4 800 KM . VENDU 5 400 000€
     
  23. LVP488

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    One interesting thing is that it's listed like it was sold during the auction, which we know did not happen.
     
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