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  1. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Aaaahhhh, those weer the days....a Ferrari in front, just like it wa suposed to be....
     
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  2. CRG125

    CRG125 F1 Rookie

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    So almost after 20 years the cars today are only 1 second quicker?
     
  3. steved033

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    ..positive in his assessment that Ferrari sucks...

    sjd
     
  4. Javierix

    Javierix Karting

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    The reality is that we have no clue whatsoever about whether the Ferrari upgrades are good or not. We won't find out until the actual race (assuming no accidents). If the upgrades retain the same current speed but with less tire degradation, then I'd see them as a success.
     
  5. gh0st0

    gh0st0 Formula 3
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    pretty boring practice sessions so far
     
  6. johnireland

    johnireland F1 Veteran
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    Well it isn't that Ferrari did any better in FP2...they just motored around and around...and everyone else did a little better or worse. I hope Mercedes does even worse tomorrow...they need to feel total humiliation before I'll cut them any slack. But I'd rather talk about Alfa Romeo merging with Haas...that would be interesting. Hulkenberg is doing the best of all four drivers in the two teams. Kevin must be feeling panic right now. But who would stay with Hulkenberg...Bottas or Zhou? And who will be the Team Principle? I don't know how Guenther keeps his job. This calls for a young brilliant man who will make big waves the way Brawn did...any one in F2?
     
  7. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    It's not a merge. As Sauber is going to be Audi, Alfa would sponsor (and/or rebrand) Haas.
     
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  8. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Haas already has a title sponsor: Money Gram. There could be a potential contract issue here.
     
  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Pirelli has raised the Front Tyre Pressures by +1psi



    I still don't understand why this is allowed.
     
  10. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Drink more coffee lol :)

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-drivers-fear-unintended-consequences-of-barcelona-track-changes/10477615/

    Formula 1 / Spanish GP News
    F1 drivers fear unintended consequences of Barcelona track changes
    Formula 1 drivers predict that overtaking in the Spanish Grand Prix will not increase from the return of the high-speed final sector, despite it being the intention behind the modifications.


    By: Matt Kew
    Jun 3, 2023, 9:29 AM

    For the first time since 2006, the championship will cut out the oft-maligned low-speed Turn 14-15 left-right chicane and will revert to the two high-speed open right handers to complete the lap.

    This has increased the final-corner apex speed up to 170mph, with the aim being to allow drivers to follow more closely onto the main straight to slipstream and mount an overtake.

    While single-car running during Friday practice returned rave reviews from drivers about the changes to make the lap faster, they do not expect said tweaks to do as conceived to help passing.

    With a perceived lack of overtaking so far in 2023 partially blamed on the Pirelli tyres being more limited by overheating rather than degradation, AlphaTauri driver Nyck de Vries reckons that will again be a major factor this weekend.

    He said: “Let’s not take to conclusions but obviously the main reason for the change is for better racing.

    "I'm not sure whether that will provide us with better racing… the left-front suffers a lot.

    “The duty on the fronts are just tough. You can feel it now, during a long run when you're behind other cars that it's so difficult to follow.

    “Now there is a lot of emphasis on the front axle whereas previously, there was a bit of both… They did [the changes] with the right intentions, let's put it that way.”

    De Vries reckoned it was possible to push for two laps before “you’ll pay the price eventually” from taking too much out of the tyres.

    Drivers also cited the 2023 cars for exacerbating fears that the revised Barcelona lap will not lead to increased overtaking.

    Despite the switch to ground effect having been intended to help cars follow more closely, the rate of development over the winter has increased levels of dirty air. Drivers have commented that it is noticeably harder to follow this season compared to last.

    Alfa Romeo driver Valtteri Bottas told Autosport: “Faster is always more fun. [But overtaking levels] are going to be the same. It's difficult to follow in the last corner.

    “It's just faster, but I don't think it's going to improve overtaking. It's slightly bumpy over there.

    “So, there's a bit of movement, which makes it more challenging, but it's quite a cool corner. It's super high speed. Definitely a bit more challenging but also for the tyres.

    “It feels like the tyres are going quite a lot through those two corners.”

    Pirelli has raised the minimum pressure of its front tyres by 1psi for this weekend, bringing the baseline up to 24psi.
     
  11. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    That's just a name, nothing that some money can't fix. It could be MoneyGram-Alfa Romeo, MoneyGram Haas powered by Alfa Romeo or whatever.
     
  12. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Glad to see Nico back as a commentator.
     
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  13. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Those rain clouds look ominous.
     
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  14. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    A proper thunderstorm that is lol!
     
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  15. 308luver

    308luver Formula Junior

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    Bonkers that they don't stop this with the lightning.
     
  16. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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  17. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Sargeant off...
     
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  18. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Not sensing a long term future in F1. He is Mick-like so far.
     
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  19. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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  20. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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  21. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Ferrari boys only 2 on track, entertaining the fans!
     
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  22. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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  23. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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  24. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Ok that 'fan of the day' prop was totally cool lol
     
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