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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Themaven, May 27, 2023.

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  1. 05F430F1

    05F430F1 F1 Rookie
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    then congrats on your car doubling in value.
     
  2. DutchFerrari

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    I would not sell all your other cars to acquire a Ford... no matter how special it is. To me it doesn't even come close to how special 575 or 430 is, but thats personal ofcorse!
     
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  3. Shark01

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    LOL
     
  4. Themaven

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    Very interesting..
     
  5. Themaven

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    Not sure about the US but £400k pounds is about right here.
     
  6. 05F430F1

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    same here- no idea why he says he bought one for 182 in 2020... miracles happen I guess.
     
  7. Shark01

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    More like knowing the market and making smart purchase decisions.
     
  8. Themaven

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    For 182k a Ford GT would be very tempting I have to say. That’s around the value of my gated 575 and the GT is probably more fun to drive I imagine. But not for 400k and I don’t think the prices are going down.
     
  9. Themaven

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    Maybe a cute 60s open top Lancia or Alfa. I don’t know anything about those cars. But would I spend all my driving days on the phone to a breakdown service?
     
  10. ross

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    i put those brands on the list because we are car guys and those are cars for car guys..... BUT if you dont want to deal with the constant fettling, or the threat of an imminent breakdown, and you still want a 60's car, then again i come back to the pagoda.
    it oozes class and refinement, its completely over engineered and the build quality is superb.
    they are a completely different driving experience to what you have now, and qualify as vintage.
    your wife will enjoy it, and you will love it.
    get the automatic since it will be easier to wheel it around london, and you arent going to be trying to be racy in it anyway.
    similar logic for getting either the 230 or 250 over the more expensive 280 - the power differential just wont matter for most of the applications you will demand of it.

    our big problem is that since, upon my mother's insistence, we resurrected her car from the fire and it is now a 100pt car that can only be shown, or lose money.
    so....i will actually have to buy another one to actually drive, which is kind of ok with me anyway since ours is white, and my favorite color scheme is more in the darker range or some kind of silver.
     
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  11. haroonok

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    Friend of mine owns this which one of the prettiest cars i have ever seen and he uses it regularly too!
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  12. Jack-the-lad

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    If you haven’t already decided, and if it were me, I’d keep the 575, sell something else and buy the best Porsche 964 you can find.
     
  13. EnzoItaly

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    Yes, or a 993: they offer a completely different driving experience compared to the cars in your stable… and they are very reliable.
     
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  14. Ffre92

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  15. ross

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  16. Shark01

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    No, a Ford GT at what I paid 3 years ago would have thousands of guys lined up, even salvaged ones get $250k+ today. At that time, there were plenty $300k+ cars, even some nudging $400k.

    The point was that there are alot of segments in that market (because of the zero mile cars and legacy paint option) so if you can live with a car with miles, or alot of modifications, or more of a driver grade car (like mine), you can do better than $400k USD in the US market (do not know how easy/hard to import something to the UK).

    All I wanted was a FGT with good bones, that I could make better year over year. And another good thing, maintenance is pretty inexpensive.
     
  17. Themaven

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    Interestingly 993 and AM Vantage V12 manual were where I started with this whole thought process a few months back.

    We had a board meeting (over some wine) yesterday where it was pointed out that if we have 3 cars it might be useful for one of them to have usable back seats, which is how I got to the Brabus a couple of years back. (It's a factory Brabus, interior as well as engine etc, just to say).

    So that leaves us with keeping the 2 x Ferraris and 1 x Brabus as the 4 seater, and up to £100k (or apparently ideally a bit less) on a new acquisition.

    That acquisition would need to:

    - not devalue rapidly/hold its value
    - be different enough to the other cars to merit driving
    - not be such a reliability liability that more time is spent on the phone to breakdown than driving it

    So:

    993: I like the idea but the family says "Porsche 911! Bo-ring!" But I can overrule. I prefer 993 to 964
    AM Vantage V12 manual: We like but it does also look identical to a starter AM 4.3 V8 touchtronic for a fifth the price, and drives not that differently
    328: Always tempted but would I take it out over the 430?
    Pagoda: Just in range and beautiful but are they good to drive? Also there are quite a few of them around
    Some other vintage maybe not sure what.
     
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  18. DutchFerrari

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  19. Dataminer

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    I have a manual 2016 Carrera GTS PCA Club Coupe that is very enjoyable to drive. Plus, it has more modern tech in it (you can have Apple CarPlay installed). The 991.1 is the last of the manual N/A Carreras. No particulate filters either to deaden the sound. I believe you could purchase one for around 100k or so depending on trim level. If Porsche is too boring then I’d get a 458 Spider. I don’t know what prices are like in London but here in the states they range 220-270k. Sure you may not tap the limits of the car but who cares when your enjoying the weather in a nice convertible.
     
  20. EnzoItaly

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    The tech issue can easily be solved: Porsche Classic Radio… they’re great.

    I’m sure the 2016 911 gts is a fine machine… quite different than a 993… the only way to find out which one makes the OPs heart beat faster… is to do a testdrive. [emoji846]

    If you would take one out for a spin: drive it at low speed, with the windows open… great sound… and when the engine is on temp… drive it and keep it above 4000rpm and do some cornering (slow in, steadily increase the throttle… and exit at 3/4 throttle (depending on the gear and type of corner)… only then you’ll feel how good they are (the combination of mechanical feel, sound and balance is incredible for such an old car). I think the chance is almost zero that a ‘family passenger’ would then still think it’s a boring car.

    (Even the smell is great but again totally different than a Ferrari. + the visibility and nimbleness is also special.)

    I loooove Ferraris and certainly your stable… they’re more emotional than almost any Porsche… but almost every aspect of a 993 is different… what they share is pure beauty and pure mechanical feeling and they’re modern enough to be really usable (for travelling during summer for instance) and they are depreciation-proof (993 = peak pure 911).

    Most arguments above are also true for a 964… but a 993 has a multilink suspension and a 6 speed gearbox… it drives better without losing character.
     
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  21. Themaven

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    Thank you, to everyone above.

    Currently a 993 is in the lead for me, one in an interesting colour with nice spec. I do like a 991.1 GTS and also a 997 GTS but maybe a bit too efficient for me as a fun car rather than a daily. 996 and 997 GT3 are also in range. 458 is not unless I sell the 430. Someone suggested a Cali 30 HS?

    This may go on a while
     
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  22. Ffre92

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    How about an elise, u will come in well under budget and it will be very different from what u have. If/when I get more garage space this is where I’m leaning
     
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  23. bumcubed

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    The Cali 30 is awesome and is an easy add on to what you have assuming you want one more convertible! Another idea is to sell the C63s and get the Cali 30 HS (or non HS) and get an S65 AMG coupe/cabriolet.
     
  24. Dataminer

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    I owned a 997.2 GT3 and I have a family member that still owns a 993 Carrera. Very different cars with different use cases but I think I prefer the 993. I just think it has better styling and, if its simply for Sunday pleasure, you'll enjoy it more.

    Now, if you were going to use it every day, I still think you should consider a 991.1 GTS. The 993 will have aging vehicle problems; of course, that's not a big deal because it can be maintained and repaired but it still exists.
     

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