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  1. Garretto

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    Here you mean Senna street car or Senna GTR?
     
  2. Twosherpaz

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    Both
     
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  3. Fortis

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    Hallelujah I thought I was the only one, bumpy road in a hardcore 1000 HP car LOL
     
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  4. willcrook

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    the senna weighs almost 500kg less than the sf90 and generates 800kg of downforce and just feels like a proper road legal track car, it's a wonderful thing to drive
     
  5. Maximus1973

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    Correct.
    I do not own the Senna, but own a 488Challenge Evo (and use it!).
    So I can only comment on the marketing and sales pitch McLaren had about the Senna.
    It was indeed not about laptimes, but more about the purpose of the Senna and comparable cars.
    To me the SF90 (and I own the Spider) is not positioned as a 'track' car.
    It's more a (comfortable) Supercar that is just darn fast.
    The Senna was heralded as a purpose build car.
    And so is the SF90XX.
    And it should be faster given the power, but more importanly it's simply a newer car.
    We can't be going backwards in lap times.
     
  6. Maximus1973

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    My Spider is non AF and I think it's the most comfi Ferrari I have ever driven.
     
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  7. Lukeylikey

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    I hear you but if you live in a place where the good roads are a bit broken, bumpy road mode stops the car from bouncing around and losing contact with the tarmac. It completely ruins the fun whereas bumpy road mode restores it. Means that a stiff car becomes basically a track car or a car where you have to drive miles to get smooth open roads. With bumpy road mode you can drive it as intended more of the time. Being from the wet UK, it’s even more valuable because softer suspension adds traction which again, can be the difference between a fun drive and a totally boring one.
     
  8. Maximus1973

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    A certain Mr. Schumacher thought otherwise....
     
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  9. JJ77

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    Lol.. that was the only way Ferrari could sell that button/route, say Schumacher wanted it. Met him many times and he laughed that it damaged his reputation. I’m sure he helped set its parameters but to call it the Schumacher button or he wanted it..
     
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  10. Techman

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    I didn't mean for this to become a philosophical discussion as to whether or not the button should be present in the XX, just highlighting that I don't believe it is but there is an inconsistency in Ferrari's online imagery at least.
     
  11. Caeruleus11

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    It would be nice to have it. I had a few driving instructors who would point out the benefit of using a softer suspension on a bumpy track. The idea is to keep the tires in contact with the pavement as best as possible. Let the driver decide.
     
  12. j09333

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    It is not senseless. It is fun on track. Car is honest :)



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  13. Lukeylikey

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    I tend to agree. Everyone uses Porsches and why not. But this is different; super-quick and a lot of fun. Not at all easy to master but really engaging trying to get as much as you can out of it. And the instant massive thrust is lovely! It’s somewhat heavy but it didn’t ruin the fun at all. I guess brake and tyre wear is gonna be a thing but I don’t think many do multiple track-days with a car like this. Can’t beat Porsche for that.
     
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  14. Yes, this exactly.

    Also, helps with 0-60 times, in case a person is into that kind of thing.
     
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  15. Twosherpaz

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    It’s a senseless waste of money on pads and rotors. But if that is immaterial to you, then I still question the enjoyment of trying to turn and slow it as compared to a more track designed vehicle. Not even a race car, just something designed to slow and turn at speed. My Chiron just feels like my old 1,400hp modified Nissan GTR where brakes and rotors cooked in five laps.
     
  16. willcrook

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    nothing wrong with driving your Chiron on track whilst waiting for your Boldie to arrive ;)
     
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  17. j09333

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    I don’t have to drive to the limit to enjoy the car. I like every cars for what it is excepts those cars with massive front grip.

    I just enjoy driving cars differently :)


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  18. Caeruleus11

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    OK guys, trying to understand the Extra Boost feature…

    It seems as if it is enabled when you are using Qualify mode and go to full throttle….. Its hard to discern if the car is providing power above the 1030hp -or- if the 1030hp is only provided during the Extra Boost.

    I’ve watched several videos with the executives and, my conclusion is, it is a few seconds of power ABOVE the 1030hp. But Im not positive….In one video they mentioned 2 seconds.

    If this is correct, I wonder how much extra power is provided. I doubt anyone would really feel 10hp. My wild guess is it has to be 30-50hp.

    Does anyone know anything more?


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  19. REALZEUS

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    So you like understeer? :rolleyes:


    This is also my understanding, but more like an extra 10-20 CV, not 30-50.
     
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  20. Caeruleus11

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    Thank you, thats really cool. My take away from everything is it seems they have really focused not just on outright performance, but also increasing the “thrilling to drive” factor, which I think was needed.


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  21. I dunno if that's more of a slam on the Bugatti or a compliment to the Nissan.
     
  22. Lcawley

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    I asked one of the Ferrari team during the presentation of the car last week and the boost only works when you are accelerating out of a turn or curve so it must be tied into the vehicle dynamics. This does exactly answer your question. They mentioned that through better heat dissipation with car that that were about to push it for 2 seconds.


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  23. Caeruleus11

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    #1823 Caeruleus11, Jul 6, 2023
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    Thank you.

    My interpretation: when I was learning performance driving I had a M3 and I remember the feeling of pushing the car at the track, feeling the rotation of the car, the diff beginning to hook up, powering out of a corner... addictive. But something one could not experience very often on the street. Things were mostly the same with cars through the 430 Scuderia. I loved driving it on closed circuits... when I first drove the 458 I was startled by how the systems clearly overdrove the outside rear tire- I thought it was contrived, fake, silly, and the ride was too comfortable most of the time, with smooth shifts. Then, after I calmed down, I realized something... this isnt the disaster I thought, instead it was actually brilliant: Ferrari is using technology to bring a track driving experience to lower speed and lower g force street driving. You no longer had to be so committed to feel that power out sensation. Ever since I got over my kind of purist rant, I was hooked on the 458 and the successor cars. I think they are doing the same kind of thing here, just the next generation... anyway, thats just how I see it.
     
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  25. REALZEUS

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    Certainly not in other Ferraris. Must be just this pic.
     
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