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    Retired U.S. Air Force Capt. David Schindele

    https://www.minotdailynews.com/news/local-news/2023/06/former-missile-officer-ufo-whistleblower-demonstrates-tremendous-courage/

    Former missile officer: UFO whistleblower demonstrates ‘tremendous courage’

    Announcement could have historical impact
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    Submitted Photo David Schindele, a retired U.S. Air Force captain, was involved in a UFO incident at a missile launch control center in the Minot missile field in 1966.

    A former Minuteman I intercontinental ballistic missile launch crew commander who was involved with a September 1966 UFO incident in the Minot missile field says he has “nothing but tremendous gratitude, admiration and respect for UFO whistleblower David Grusch.”

    Retired U.S. Air Force Capt. David Schindele said Grusch “has knowledge of the U.S. having in in its possession a dozen or more craft from the heavens, which are not man made, and that some of the pilots have been recovered.”

    On June 5, Grusch, a former intelligence officer, came forward with allegations the U.S. federal government has a highly secretive UFO (or UAP) retrieval program and possesses up to 12 non-human spacecraft and bodies of some pilots.

    UFO stands for unidentified flying objects and UAP stands for unidentified aerial phenomena.

    “It is because of my long research into the ‘UFO question,’ after experiencing an unworldly incident at Minot AFB in September 1966, that I now congratulate Grusch for having the courage to come out with this very important news. Because of his past history and vast experience in the intelligence field, Grusch has proven himself as a highly intelligent, capable, competent, knowledgeable, and trusted individual,” Schindele said.


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    Eloise Ogden/MDN The front page of The Minot Daily News on Dec. 6, 1966, carried a story about unidentified flying objects seen in the local area.

    Although Schindele said he has a certain bias regarding such an exceptional announcement, he said, “I know that Grusch has revealed something that could or should have great historical impact to all of humankind, from now and into the future.”


    Schindele, who was stationed at Minot Air Force Base from July 1965 to May 1968, was involved in a UFO incident occurring in September 1966.

    During that incident, Air Force members from the Minot base experienced an incident in the Minot missile field in which a flying object took “off alert” all 10 of the nuclear-tipped missiles, causing them to be unlaunchable. About a dozen military members topside at the missile launch control facility observed the mysterious flying object with bright flashing lights hovering near the perimeter fence on that September night.

    Schindele, a Minuteman ICBM launch control officer and deputy missile combat crew commander, was at a launch control center near Mohall, where the incident occurred.

    Air Force officials instructed the military members at the launch control facility and those who knew about the incident, never to speak about it and as far as they should be concerned, it never happened.

    The Minot Daily News carried the front-page headline, “Minot Launch Control Center ‘Saucer’ Cited As One Indication Of Outer Space Visitors,” for a story published on Dec. 6, 1966, about UFOs seen in the local area.

    Schindele, of Mukilteo, Washington, wrote a book, “It Never Happened, Volume I,” on his research and documentation about the Minot incident and others. The book, a six-and-a-half year project, was published several years ago.

    In October 2021, Schindele was among military veterans involved in UFO incidents who spoke at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

    About a month ago, Schindele was one of former military members interviewed by the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) established by the Department of Defense last year to investigate the UFO situation. AARO is to come to a resolution on the matter.

    He said the “oral history reviews” were conducted with former military who have had sightings, incidents and encounters impacting national security. “Sad to say, however, I have now determined that AARO is part of the cover-up and cannot be trusted,” Schindele said.

    “Yes, the truth is and has been out there, but the government (the Defense Department, Air Force and CIA) has covered up truth of the flying objects for many decades. And there are still elements deep in those agencies that will desperately fight to hold their secret. To them, there are very good reasons for doing so, primarily for their own protection,” Schindele said.

    “It is my hope that David Grusch will become a national hero in his release of a ‘monumental secret,’ which is something the American people should have known about long ago. Grusch has demonstrated tremendous courage that few people would dare exhibit and with no benefit to himself,” Schindele said.

    “As for me, I have no trouble in relating to him and I have no trouble imagining the thoughts he must have about the position he has put himself into. However, he has a huge number of people backing him, including former military, but also many others in government and the private sector who know the truth. Those who have previously been involved in protecting and supporting the secret, but who are now having second thoughts, should consider that it is now their time to step forward also. All should gather around to help join and support David Grusch.

    “Most importantly, Congress must now step up the pressure to get to the bottom of it all, since the American people deserve to know the truth on such an important matter, which has impacted national security for decades. There can be no doubt that this can be a historical moment for all humankind,” Schindele said.

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    Rubio: Recent UFO whistleblower isn't the only one

     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/us/politics/ufo-records-schumer.html

    Bipartisan Measure Aims to Force Release of U.F.O. Records


    Legislation backed by Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, would create a review board to declassify documents related to unidentified aerial phenomena across the government.

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    Various Pentagon task forces have done extensive studies on videos taken by naval aviators and other military personnel that have remained secret. Credit...Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times

    By Julian E. Barnes

    Julian Barnes has been covering intelligence agencies’ examination of unidentified phenomena since 2020.

    July 13, 2023Updated 8:02 p.m. ET
    Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, is pushing legislation to create a commission with broad authority to declassify government documents about U.F.O.s and extraterrestrial matters, in an attempt to force the government to share all that it knows about unidentified phenomena.

    The measure offers the possibility of pushing back against the conspiracy theories that surround discussions of U.F.O.s and fears that the government is hiding critical information from the public.

    The legislation, which Mr. Schumer will introduce as an amendment to the annual defense policy bill, has bipartisan support, including that of Senator Mike Rounds, Republican of South Dakota, and Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, who has championed legislation that has forced the government to release a series of reports on unidentified phenomena.

    Support in the House is also likely. On Wednesday, the chamber included a narrower measure in its version of the annual defense bill that would push the Pentagon to release documents about unidentified aerial phenomena.

    While the government has agreed not to call mysterious sightings U.F.O.s, various branches and agencies disagree on whether to refer to aerial phenomena or anomalous phenomena.)

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    The Senate measure sets a 300-day deadline for government agencies to organize their records on unidentified phenomena and provide them to the review board.


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    President Biden would appoint the nine-person review board, subject to Senate approval. Senate staff members say the intent is to select a group of people who would push for disclosure while protecting sensitive intelligence collection methods.

    Interest in U.F.O.s has always been high, but it has grown even more since a collection of videos showing unidentified phenomena recorded by military sensors was made public and naval aviators described hard-to-explain events while on training missions.

    Some of the videos released by the Pentagon have been explained as optical illusions or drones, but others remain unexplained and the object of much speculation. Under pressure from Congress, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies have gathered hundreds of reports of unexplained phenomena. Officials have said most of the unexplained incidents are airborne trash, Chinese spying efforts or errant weather balloons. American officials have repeatedly said that none of the videos or other material they have collected appears to be evidence of alien visitation.

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    It is hard to know how many unreleased documents exist in government archives. Intelligence agencies have said repeatedly that they have released the material they have. Their freedom of information offices are constantly deluged with requests for material on U.F.Os., only to be met with responses that the archives have been released.


    Still, more recent work, particularly by the Pentagon, has not been made public, and the reticence of some government agencies to produce records has frustrated both Democratic and Republican lawmakers, Mr. Schumer’s staff members said.

    For example, various Pentagon task forces have conducted extensive studies on videos taken by naval aviators and other military personnel that have remained secret. Some work on the videos has been released, including at a recent NASA meeting. In some cases, officials believe disclosures could reveal the capability of classified optics and sensors. But in cases in which no formal conclusion has been reached, officials have been reluctant to share information on their deliberations or theories.

    It is the reluctance to share all that is known about the incidents that are not completely understood that has fueled endless speculation on social media, in television specials and public debates.

    The new legislation is modeled on the commission that oversaw the release of information about John F. Kennedy’s assassination. That legislation, passed in 1992, has been imperfect, and both the release and withholding of documents have continued through the Biden administration.

    Still, the Kennedy assassination review board has forced the release of thousands of pages of documents, and lawmakers believe the approach could work here.

    Under Mr. Schumer’s legislation, the president could decide to delay material the commission has chosen to release based on national security concerns. But the measure would establish a timetable to release documents and codify the presumption that the material should be public.

    “You now will have a process through which we will declassify this material,” said Allison Biasotti, a spokeswoman for Mr. Schumer.

    Government officials have repeatedly said they do not have the remains of a crashed alien spacecraft or any manufactured material of extraterrestrial origins.

    Those assertions have been challenged by some former officials who believe the government is not divulging all that it knows. The legislation would likely force more details of the government’s study of unknown materials to be released, but it also gives the federal government the power to claim any crashed spaceships in private or corporate hands, however unlikely that such things exist.

    Mr. Biden, unlike former President Barack Obama, has not directly addressed the issue of unidentified phenomena. But Mr. Biden did order two unknown objects and a Chinese spy balloon to be shot from the sky. Afterward, the president said that he would not apologize for shooting down the spy balloon and that the United States would continue to adapt its approach to dealing with unknown objects.

    Karoun Demirjian contributed reporting from Washington.

    Julian E. Barnes is a national security reporter based in Washington, covering the intelligence agencies. Before joining The Times in 2018, he wrote about security matters for The Wall Street Journal. More about Julian E. Barnes

    A version of this article appears in print on July 14, 2023, Section A, Page 16 of the New York edition with the headline: Bipartisan Measure Aims to Force Declassification of U.F.O. Records. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
     
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    https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4191383-the-pentagons-ufo-office-is-sending-cryptic-alien-messages/

     
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