Yup, lift at 90 degrees bank is zero except what the rudder can give you.
Imagine being inside the cockpit of a remote control aircraft model in flight, at the controls. As you operate the flight controls, you actually see, and are able to look around, as if you are inside the scale model. This guy did it. https://www.instagram.com/fpvaircombat/
That hardy beast is an Antonov AN2. Designed in 1947, which surprised me, even though I knew it was ancient! Cheers. Mark
My second airplane ride ever was in a Ford Tri-Motor from Put-n-Bay to Port Clinton. First was in a C-207 from Port Clinton to Put-n-Bay
I'm envious. On my boyhood trips up and down the East Coast I always bugged my dad to stop at.the "Wings + Wheels" museum in (I think) Santee, SC. They offered Tri Motor rides. By the time I got him to stop, the museum had closed...
My last flight to the Merced Antique Fly In in my L-3 I was fortunate to get a right seat ride in Bill Harrah's Ford Tri Motor. The pilot was kind enough to let me fly it for a while. Fly? I never got the feeling that I had anything to do with it. It was like steering a barn down the road but what a kick! Noisy, vibrating, sluggish, crude, but great fun. Beautifully restored. Green cushions on wicker seats and spotless throughout. Seemed to have one speed for take off, climb, cruise. and landing. Engine instruments outside on the inboard struts of the nacelle. I used to see them when I was a kid fly over the farm during the Depression
Is this the one? The guy says this plane was restored by Bill Harrah's museum. . Pilots seat (different plane) .
I believe that it is. I would have to check my pictures. I was a bit too critical about the way it handled because I'm a low time pilot in the big stuff and I'm used to lighter planes and lighter and quicker controls. The larger airplane that I can't be critical of is the DC-3, a beautiful flying airplane. The Boeing 247 was slower handling but steady as a rock. I think that the nicest twin of all was the Lockheed Model 12. I got several hours in N1112 when Mike S. owned it and before donating it to the EAA. I got to fly it from Spokane to Arlington, Wa. where I made two nice landings. Then flew it to BFI where I made another nice landing and finally flew it back to Arlington for my last landing. That airplane always did exactly what I wanted it to do and almost gave the feeling of being helpful. I was told by some of the old hands that it was typical of a Lockheed. One of my favorites.
Bob- Of all the fighters my dad flew, the P-38 was his favorite. That lines up with what you observed. The counter-rotating props probably helped.
Thanks, Taz. I wish that I had the energy now to write a book about the P-38 pilots that I have known. I didn't meet any in the Air Force but I did in civilian life when I was at Duke and then at Boeing. Also, an Ace when I was flying at the local antique field.. His was a story that you couldn't make up. I never heard any of them complain about the airplane. I feel that this country grew heroes like your dad and so many others that were never rewarded and never expected to be. And here we are.
This little clip is satisfying - Slip landing I get the gist that there are some quote-unquote "pilots" that go into flying a single prop with a rigid checklist persona, where everything is by the book right down to parking and shutting down the engine. And there are other pilots(the barnstormers) where the airplane itself becomes an extension of their body. They feel every little nudge of the wind, they've already mentally calculated the distance from what they see around them and like second nature, adjust the flight controls to make it all happen as if they already predicted the maneuver, and from the outside, it all comes together smoother than silk........ https://www.instagram.com/p/CvK3IsNu0da/
The C17'S have been through there a lot lower. I recall standing on the roof of my building (15th floor) and looking down on them - pretty impressive! I have video somewhere.