Did Ferrari Cheat Their Best Clients?

Its an evolution of the 308 GTB as you well know, from the engine block, the windscreen, the doors, the roof, the tail lights, the list goes on.

The chassis is a standard tube design, just reinforced with composite panels, the body is mainly fibreglass, its a pretty basic v8 that has been turbocharged, the gearbox is from the 288 etc etc

Coupled with loads of off the shelf Fiat and Magnetti Marelli parts.

Nothing revolutionary about the F40 engineering wise.

Not knocking the car, I love it, but it's really just a fancy kit car that Ferrari milked to death in the end.

 

I don' t think they share a single part. F40 trans looks similar but is physically larger.

 

288 and F40 use exactly the same gearbox and diff casings, they even share the same part number.

 

Not on the numbers that Ferrari puts out. I'm sure they fudge that all the time. The hard thing for me to believe is that Ferrari is having people bumped off .... that part I have a very hard time believing.

 

As far as I know, there is no law prohibiting Ferrari from making as many cars of a specific model as they want. Literally, they could put the 250 GTO back into production and make 1000 of them. Given the nature of the market, it would not dent the value of any existing 250 GTO. So from a legal perspective, they can make as many a car as they want. Unless they have certified to you that you have THE only Ferrari of x model produced and that they will not make any more... you don't really have any argument that Ferrari is "screwing its best customers"... its sensationalism at best. Classiche is about remaking no longer available parts ... like an engine etc... so Ferrari have the license to do what they like.

 

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I Actually have a whole conspiracy theory and it involves Maserati along those lines

 

ok.

 

Do you want to hear.

Trust me... You won't believe it. (I don't)

 

Their lies may be legal but but hardly ethical. And yes, they have made commitments many times to limit production to specific numbers and just blown off the commitment. As I said. I know of one case it was a singular car, never to be another made. Now there are 3.

There are many cases of a client requesting a certain landmark VIN and next we know there are multiple cars with the same number. I guess its OK unless you have a contract that specifically states "There will only be one #99999 made".

In your very sorry world I guess that is OK.

 

are duplicate VINs legal? It's one thing to make 500 when you said you'd make 400, and to rebuild a car from the ground up and put a surviving VIN plate on that car - it's another thing entirely to create multiple cars with the same VIN

 

In Italy when your name is Ferrari you can do almost whatever you want.

 

I'm sorry that we disagree. I don't know about "my" very sorry world... I think it's just the world.

The one thing I know about is cars, and if you are a car collector, you are either in it for the love of cars or to make money. if you love cars? who cares how many. if you were supposed to have only one and now there are 3 - you are still one of 3 in a world of 9Billion people... it's still unique. if you are in it to make money - then you need to be smarter about it from a legal perspective and tie that up when you buy the only car. Most of all this is ego-stroking bragging.... owning a Ferrari at all is pretty rare... owning a unique one is even rarer. Be happy you have a relationship with the factory to get what you want.

 

not really.

 

Hardly ethical to make over 500 of the "1 of 399" plaques though really is it!

 

ALL COMPLETELY irrelevant!! Do you all realize we are talking about hundreds OR thousands of total cars??? Not hundreds OF thousands like other brands.... I mean how more rare do you guys want??? Ferraris are SO RARE AND SCARCE compared to most other brands that I can't believe you guys speak of a hundred cars in the WORLD mattering at all! Even 2,000 more of whatever car is STILL RARE AF!

 

That may be true, but I still go back to saying how about we simply ask not to be lied to.

Is that really such a tall ask?

 

They ALL are!! That's what the F8 IS and no one seems to acknowledge.... a streetable, improved PISTA baby!

 

Great... Anyways...

Ferrari learned much after the manufacturing giant Mitsubishi.

Mitsubishi is/was one the largest manufacturers in the world. People don't really understand how big they are... But they are massive and this puts it into perspective...

Mitsubishi wasn't in the car business until they added up how much they were spending on executives cars... And how much money they were throwing away... They figured they could actually save money if they started building their own car.

So my super serious conspiracy theory is the following:

Ferrari does things all over the world that violate all sorts of state local and even international trade law. They bully their way around everyone and everything.

If you don't actually comply... An assassin driving a Maserati shows up.

Maserati exists to provide transportation for Ferraris assassins at a lower cost.

 

such silliness

 

Except Ferrari completely screwed up with Maserati, when they were in charge of it, so that FIAT took back direct control.
Now Maserati is controlled by Stellantis, with no link with Ferrari (except that some major shareholders of Stellantis happen to also be major shareholders of Ferrari).

Coming back to some of the initial remarks, one has to be relatively gullible to believe limited production claims when the cars are not individually numbered.
Such numbering is very easy (and performed on larger productions by mainstream manufacturers, so that the cost is obviously not a problem for a high end manufacturer enjoying huge margins).
The drawback of individually numbering cars is that it's then relatively easy to detect limited production breaches, since it implies having different cars with the same number... why would anyone avoid this individual numbering process, if not to work around this drawback ?

 

You are talking about Italians, right?