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  1. alandrill

    alandrill Rookie

    Nov 12, 2008
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    Aberdeen, Scotland
    Unfortunately my 1997 F355 fails to meet the requirements for Scotland's new Low Emission Zones.It predates EURO 4 legislation.
    I can find details of CO2 emissions , nearly 400g/km but am unable to find CO emissions and the zones seem to concentrate on CO emissions. Does anyone know the actual CO emissions of a standard F355?

    Would be nice to be able to appeal the exclusion of my car as it isn't quite 30 years old which would exempt it.

    Any input would be very much appreciated.

    Alan
     
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  2. ChoonHound

    ChoonHound Formula 3
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    May 13, 2022
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    What’s the practical consequence of not meeting these emissions targets?

    Also, I’m all for drasticly reducing enassiobs, but going after car enthusiasts will do absolutely nothing.

    Coal. Private jets. Jets in general. Big fatties on cruise ships. Ocean shipping in general. That’s where the meat is.
     
  3. alandrill

    alandrill Rookie

    Nov 12, 2008
    33
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    Practical consequence is £60 fine every time you enter a zone with a non-compliant car. Fine doubles for every further entry.
     
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  4. ChoonHound

    ChoonHound Formula 3
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    And these zones are in metro areas? Edinburgh, Glasgow, etc?
     
  5. alandrill

    alandrill Rookie

    Nov 12, 2008
    33
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    Yes, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen
     
  6. spaghetti_jet

    spaghetti_jet Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2005
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    Europa
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    Bob
    Hi Alan,
    If you have a European market F355 then it was homologated according to EC96 (Euro 2) emission levels.

    You can find out about the levels here, in the section “Euro 2”:

    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/euro-emissions-standards/


    Euro 2 emissions standards (petrol)
    CO: 2.2g/km
    HC + NOx: 0.5g/km

    Any local MOT centre will be able to measure CO & HC, NOx is usually only measured on diesel vehicles. However, the result will be in ppm or lambda ratio and not directly in g/KM.

    Good luck with your appeal, and please come back and let us know how you get on.
     
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  7. Targatime

    Targatime Formula 3

    Feb 22, 2014
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    Elections have consequences.
     
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  8. Hi Alan.

    Prompted by a few friends in Aberdeen who have managed to get their cars (nothing fancy) ono the LEZ complaint list, I came back to FChat this evening after a long time away to research LEZ compliance issues and found this thread. I am very dismayed that the likes of a Dodge Hellcat with 362g CO2/km is LEZ complaint, whereas a F355 with 363g CO2/km ins't!

    However, for the £60 fine (£30 if you pay up quickly) Aberdeen City Council do provide a couple of nice photos as a wee memento of your incursion into the zone. I've got mine framed!
     
  9. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    Ocean shipping is the lease CO2 intense way to transport goods 5,000 miles.

    We could go back to the days of Clipper Ships, but then we would need 100,000 ships and 15× the number of sailors now employed, and each ship would carry only a few containers--Oh and take twice as long to cross the ocean.

    Ocean shipping is the trains of the sea.
     
  10. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    The question is how do they detect non-compliance ??

    a) Car older than EURO 2-3--you are screwed.
    b) CO2 monitor at side of road--take transmission out of gear and coast by at idle.
     
  11. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

    Dec 8, 2004
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    Conformance is based on the manufacturer declared figures then if their cameras spot a non-compliant or non-registered vehicle in the LEZ fine arrives as noted above
     
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