Aussie Ferrari Spotters Thread??

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There's a guy on Ebay from S.A breaking a Japan delivered 575, he might have stuff you need, Username gtautospares

Goodluck with it

 

Thanks John. Yes that was me out at Warrick! Gee that was such a long time ago! haha

 

Hi there I have a genuine question, when you look at a car like the 575 you have, how do you assess weather or not the chassis is compromised when you’re inspecting the car?, it’s all alloy, is it something that can be jigged back square or do you replace sections if it Is indeed distorted by the impact?, I am genuinely interested in the process as I have no experience with this type of work.
Sincerely Adrian

 

You might get varying opinions on this, but for me bent frame = end of life.

Some frame rails can be replaced (particularly the front ones), so that's fine, as can subframes - but if the main chassis is bent or twisted, that's game over in my book.

 

Right, so is there any way of determining the integrity of the chassis before you strip the car ?

 

Hi Adrian,
We will have to strip a few more parts from the car to get a real idea of the damage. But either way the car will have to go on an Auto Robot, where the front rails will get some heat treatment and gentle pulling at various angles to get as square as possible. At which point it will be cut along the factory weld marks and new genuine parts welded in as per factory standard. You would be hard pressed to pick the difference between a genuine Ferrari weld and a skilled workman. Using the Auto Robot we will be able to square up the chassis to original specs. I'll document the whole process on the channel. Still finding my way around Youtube so you'll have to excuse the video/audio quality.

You are correct in this statement, but at the same time, any part can be removed and re-attached, just depends how much money and time you want to invest and if its worth the initial outlay. There are some dodgey people that would cut corners and try patch things up, this is something you want to avoid for sure.

 

Very interesting and thankyou for the insight, I look forward to following the progress of the car .

 

Part 2 is out! Any feedback welcome!

 

A lot of the chassis is visible from underneath once you remove the undertrays and/or shields etc. Depends on the car.

Any dents/bends or deformations should be fairly obvious but I'm sure the pros have some alignment tools etc they can use.

The pillars also need to be checked (where you can). This can be tough though as the frame can sometimes be covered with an outer skin.

 

[QUOTE="GMotorWorks, post: 149289471, member: 279542",]At which point it will be cut along the factory weld marks and new genuine parts welded in as per factory standard.[/QUOTE]



Sorry, no such thing as replacement chassis sections from Ferrari.

The car can only be pulled into approximate alignment, then the control arms packed with spacers to align the wheels. Very common with repaired Ferraris.

A 575 has a torque tube, so the front corner impact transfers to the rear of the chassis. Also common to see 575's with the engine kinked over after an accident.

 

[QUOTE="GMotorWorks, post: 149289471, member: 279542",At which point it will be cut along the factory weld marks and new genuine parts welded in as per factory standard.



Sorry, no such thing as replacement chassis sections from Ferrari.

The car can only be pulled into approximate alignment, then the control arms packed with spacers to align the wheels. Very common with repaired Ferraris.

A 575 has a torque tube, so the front corner impact transfers to the rear of the chassis. Also common to see 575's with the engine kinked over after an accident.[/QUOTE]


Someone has bought a brand new front end for a 575 from Ferrari? Because i bought it from them on ebay UK. Enroute now All genuine parts with part numbers and labels.

Can't comment on wheel shims to align, etc. No experience on this. Hopefully not.

What do you mean by the engine kinked over?

BTW: You mentioned the previous owner was a doctor who ran cheap Chinese tyres on another post. They are all Michelin Pilot Sport's. I was expecting winglings.

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Really? I thought front end frame rails were fairly common to replace?

Same deal with subframes...

The main chassis itself this might be the case. Personally I wouldn't want to fix one but in some cases there's just no other choice. I'd be pretty reluctant to buy a car with a damaged frame though (Unless it was a super rare example bought for the right price).

 

Very interesting guys please keep up the posts [emoji120]

 

Repairing Ferraris is an exercise in frustration for even undamaged cars. Some parts are more available than others. Ferrari are not a high volume manufacturer who can provision for major accident repairs, particularly on a 20 year old model.

The engine appears to have moved in your car, unless it's distortion in the surrounding inner panels, but unlikely.

I did not mention in any post anything about the previous owner or tyres.

 

Will dismantle it some more and check this weekend. I do feel the frame has moved up slightly. But we will repair it back to OE spec.

re: tyres, in the original thread where a user posted about a written of 575 in Sydney and you mentioned this:
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There’s a Dr on here that insists on Chinese tyres for all his cars and it’s not me (that was an in joke Ian was making)

Just had a look at your current video. Good news for you is that is seems to have the Fiorano Handling Pack judging by the springs. If it all gets too hard, I’d be salvaging the 4 springs, rear sway bar, suspension ECU and steering ECU, et voila, you have the full FHP you can flog, you would easily get US$10k for that, the US guys would snap it up. If the 19” wheels are fine then that’s another easy US$10k

By the way, my wife watched the video too and her response was “the guy is fkn crazy”

 

Mr Momdial , wife is that what you call Ian now ?

 

Ian is my mistress

 

I don't know how you connected my comment to your car or its previous owner. You might care to apologise and we'll stay friends. Or not.

 

Is that what Escorts are now called on the North Shore ?

 

Steve and Chloe are still waiting for an apology..

 

Rob, I’m not happy with that remark

 

And so is Steve’s dog

 

Simon's a doctor?