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Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

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  1. 375+

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    And when one driver outscores his teammate by more than 3 to 1.
     
  2. DF1

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    Apr 30, 2023-- Fernando Alonso has tipped Lance Stroll to lead the Aston Martin team for another 10 or 15 years after the Spaniard retires.

    :D
     
  3. tifosi12

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    That would be nice.
     
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  4. 375+

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    Lead the team where?
     
  5. LVP488

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    Was it April 30 or actually April 1st ?
     
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  6. tifosi12

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    Doesn't matter. As long as he enjoys being in F1.
     
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  7. 375+

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    Fernando knowing what to kiss and when.
     
  8. Pranucci

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    Somebody’s got to drive the transporter to the track.


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  9. DF1

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    As a few of us have been stating as well - In green below. A serious team does not keep him around at all. He has had how long to 'raise his game'??

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/10-things-we-learned-from-the-2023-f1-italian-grand-prix/10516228/

    9. Stroll to stay with Aston Martin, but for how much longer?

    Stroll's deficit to Alonso has been considerable in 2023

    Photo by: Steven Tee / Motorsport Images

    On the subject of Aston Martin, Krack had also stated on Thursday that Lance Stroll was to stay with the team for 2024. This follows a handful of different threads involving the team following its surge in competitiveness; one, that it has tabs on the likes of Leclerc and Norris for a race seat, and two, that Stroll might call time on F1 to go and do something else. One theory was that he'd go and play tennis professionally - but in either case, he'd be participating in a sport to trail a world-class Spaniard. Stroll backhanded away those rumours, declaring that his F1 ambitions were not yet game, set, and match.

    That said, there's no escaping that there has been a very clear gulf between Stroll and team-mate Fernando Alonso. They're separated by a whopping 123 points which, if that was halved, would keep Aston Martin well above Ferrari in the constructors' championship. Alonso has had seven podiums this year while Stroll has none, and it's hard to argue that the Canadian would have earned a 2024 seat in any other team with such a deficit.

    Stroll is capable of pulling out big results, and he showed that across his first year with Williams and with Racing Point in 2020. But they're few and far between and, over the past couple of seasons, he appears to have regressed. There were mitigating circumstances at Monza, having limited seat time on Friday after giving up FP1 for reserve Felipe Drugovich and losing FP2 time with car troubles, but it was a poor race all told.

    If Aston Martin and Lawrence Stroll want to be genuine championship challengers in the coming seasons, the second seat will be a stumbling block; either a top-line driver comes in, or Stroll Jr raises his game considerably. Those are the only options.
     
  10. Bas

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    We've been told we'll be eating crow for quite some time now but we're still waiting.

    This is year 7 now for Stroll in F1. He's significantly slower than his ancient teammate. He is still driving around on a brisk sunday afternoon cruise.

    He's not desperately slow, simply buy him a GTP, paint it aston martin green and let him do FIA WEC instead.

    The team is a financial asset now so mission complete on that. For the love of all that's holy, put someone competent alongside Alonso. Alonso only has a few more years left, right now Aston does not have a contingency plan. Drugovich? Don't make me laugh.
     
  11. DF1

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    If they were at all serious, very serious about winning - They would have a plan to replace both in 2 years or less.
    The 'who' is the question. A senior experienced driver and a new-ish type driver.
    Who thinks Aston is a 'top' team? Are they a 'top' team? They are on track to be a decent team - with FA at the wheel.

    Thats all I see.
     
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  12. pilotoCS

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    Lance Stroll will be a driver for the Aston Martin team as long as Lawrence Stroll is in control and that's regardless of Lance's performance.

    What is it that you folks don't understand about that? Sheesh . . . .
     
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  13. DF1

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    We understand fully. SHEESH. Its the lack of performance in the face of REALITY that is interesting about this. The team say they are serious LOL. So................sonny boy has a job. Thats nice.
     
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  14. Temerian

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    Even if the team decides to stay with both drivers through next season the more worrying thing is the car no longer showing the pace it started the season with. Aston seem to be going backwards at the moment. Kind of like Ferrari in 2022.
     
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    I get what you're sayin.....but let's look at Ferrari's history in F1 and AMRF1 as a team.

    Ferrari has been in F1 for over 75 years and had more downs than ups as far as winning goes.

    AMRF1 is a new team and are building to become a better team(from the looks of it from a financial standpoint)....so they are learning as they go.
     
  16. william

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    Exactly ! Alonso is the real indicator of the state of Aston Martin.
    After the euphoria of early season, their pace has slowed down.
    Aston hasn't lost its 2nd spot because of Lance Stroll.
    Most likely it was because the car hasn't been developed enough.
     
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    That arguement won't hold. Maybe like 3 races ago AMRF1 sorta stopped development of the car but throughout the season, Lance Stroll hasn't progressed and has lost the team valuable points.....so much so that currently after 14 races(13 really), AMRF1 would still be 2nd in the WCC standings.
     
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    Maybe. But it's truly useless arguing about Lance Stroll's position with the team.
     
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    Did Lancelot show up for this race?
     
  20. DF1

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    He logged data laps lol...............
     
  21. william

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    The critics cannot influence Ferrari to deliver a better car and win championships, but they believe they could tell Lawrence Stroll to dismiss his son !
     
  22. DF1

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    No a 'normal' team would have done so already. Its expected Stroll Sr will continue the 'dream' with this less than talented F1 son. The 'privilege' of 'wealth' continues lol.
     
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  23. william

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    Lawrence Stroll is doing nothing wrong, and Lance Stroll didn't usurp his place in F1 where he has accomplished more than many.
     
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  24. furoni

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    True, he is acomplishing a lot of laps......and a lot of embaressment
     
  25. DF1

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    Interesting analysis……………

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/hefty-price-aston-martin-paying-for-lance-stroll/

    The price of Lance Stroll’s struggles
    Based on the premises that Stroll has single-handedly cost Aston Martin second place in the Constructors’ Championship, and the above attests to that, that means he’s denied them a few bob in prize money.

    By the terms of the Concorde Agreement, the document that governs the running of the sport including the distribution of prize money, the top team in the Constructors’ Championship receives 14 percent of the total prize pot, and the bottom team receives six percent. This agreement is locked in until January 2025.

    For 2023 it is estimated that the total prize pot that will be split amongst the teams will be worth $900 million, it could even be more such in Formula 1’s growing popularity.

    That means Red Bull, already with one hand and a pinkie on the teams’ trophy, can look forward to a $126m pay-out with second place receiving $117m, third place $108m, and fourth place only $99m. As for P5, that’s worth $90m.

    And then there’s also extra money for teams who have finished inside the top three in the past 10 years. As that stands today, that’s Red Bull, Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, and Williams. That overall figure is, according to The Race, 20% of what Formula 1 makes over $650m with the sport said to be bringing in $2b this year.

    Crunching the numbers that’s $18m Stroll has denied the team from the Constructors’ prize pot while Aston Martin are now also out of the running for a share of roughly $67.5m for next season, and the next nine. The exact split for this is not known but it could be divided equally amongst those teams, so let’s call it $11m.

    That’s $29m (again, salary and crash damage not included)!

    So never mind an $18m driver, is Stroll worth $29m? That’s a question Lawrence Stroll’s investors have to ask.
     
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