812 Replacement Rumors

Largest UK dealer said last week that it would be a mild hybrid - earlier that day he’d had a visit from the CEO - GTS is the last unassisted V12 apart from specials.

 

If the official release date is April 2024 people in the know / vip customers will have details of the car probably by the end of 2023

 

NGL I want to punch them in the face for being sellouts to electrification. I just cannot imagine a ferrari without an engine. Electric motors =/= any internal combustion engine. They should just just create a ferrari sub-brand(maybe revive "Dino") for electric vehicles

 

Euro 7 will come into force July 2025
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tips-advice/106870/what-are-euro-7-emissions-standards

 

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I think it will be similar

 

don't drag Dino into this, that brand is misunderstood not an escape goat

 

Ok. So a car manufacturer who’s (well known) “reliability” issues with just a single 12V battery is barely better than that of Lucas the Prince of Darkness is planing to go full electric………….

Really?!?!

Where do they find these people…….


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Essentially Ferraris will go from being on a battery tender to keep the 12V alive to a really really BIG battery tender for their EVs


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Splitting hairs not counting SUV, 812C, 8122CA, SP1, and SP2. Sixth from last and counting in my book.

 

I drove a fascinating car recently. In fact fascinating doesn’t cover it. Mind-blowing is a more familiar but probably overused adjective. Not in this case. The car in question was the McMurtry Speirling, the exact car that holds the Goodwood hillclimb record. I’ve never driven anything like it and I have driven a lot of stuff.

It is, of course, fully electric. But that doesn’t really cover it either. The engineering is from a bunch of ex F1 types and is really quite interesting. Using its high-speed fan system, it generates 2 tonnes of downforce - from rest! The car itself only weighs a tonne and completing the story is also its power, neatly, 1,000bhp. Makes the maths easy doesn’t it? 1,000bhp per tonne with 2 tonnes of downforce, all the time if you want it. Told you it was head-scrambling.

It’s also fast. The fastest thing I have ever driven by a mile.

To drive, it scrambles every other part of your body too. 3G turns (think about that) are very very easy for the car to manage, if a little more difficult for you. The thing is so fast, so interactive, so full of interesting sounds, so much fun. Here’s the point. You can’t discount what clever people can do with new tech. Although I don’t ever believe Ferrari will ever stop selling combustion engines, seeing what they do with electrification need not be something to be quite so afraid of until you see how they use it.

 

Not a good start.. First post and factually wrong..If you have one, great car but if you are buying one, don’t buy on that “ last of”. Dealers and especially UK ones are the last to know..

 

True but the Speirling is a track car…I am sure electric vehicle manufacturers will produce some thrilling track cars, but I can’t see how they will manage to produce cars that can be driven on the road at legal speeds and provide similar thrills. Road cars are about light weight, responsiveness, feel, sound and often smell (for 60s Ferraris!)… how do you get that from an electric car?


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Sounds quite like every single other all electric track car, whatever.

 

This car has vintage lines in its style.

 

You blew it by driving something you will never experience in a road car in your life. That car has no road safety anything. The full-on electric performance road cars will be entirely connected and the various global safety and regulatory agencies will neuter the crazy performance right out of them. Look at EURO 7, NHTSA, CARB, DOT, EPA, etc. They are regulating light weight, small, fast ICE cars out of existence. The future is autonomy as in you will not control a lot of the experiences you found wonderful in the Speirling. My guess is if the car was twice the size and was speed and acceleration limited you would have found it an over priced, so-so, impractical car compared to other EVs.

 

When I get in my F12 and turn the key, the orchestral noise and sheer thunder of the mighty V12 give me and everyone in the vicinity a massive high. I don’t need to be going any speed to be enjoying myself. But my god, when I do get the horses going it brings me an even better high. An EV will never be able to re-create that. It’s the emotion that’s missing. I lament the decision by Ferrari to pursue electrification. It’s not the answer imho and deletes one of the key elements of what makes a Ferrari unique.

 

Ah apologies, but since this is a thread on the 812 replacement rather than ‘all V12s’….. Obviously I’ve used the wrong term with specials, limited production runs would be more appropriate perhaps.
Only relaying what I was told - he said ‘will be’ not ‘might be’ - I take no pleasure in it!
And I have one, so thanks for your kind words!

 

Technology will move on and the future is never a straight line.
It's our human minds that struggle to think outside those straight lines.
I have no doubt big companies, Ferrari included, will continue to pump out fun cars.
Can we imagine in a few years, Ferrari's board of directors organize a gathering of all the staff to basically say: "OK team, we can't produce fun cars anymore. Let's start designing bikes/washingmachines/whatever!"

When politics decide "no more ICE cars", it is no more ICE cars for us. Point.
Until that decision has been made we can still enjoy our ICE cars and Ferrari is not that stupid to walk away from a very, very large portion of their customers.

At all the events and dealer meetings, no one, I repeat NO ONE, every said to their dealer "Oh I can't wait to buy a full Ferrari EV".
Maranello isn't completely deaf......

BTW this exact discussion went on before the 812 launch.... it will happen again and again in some form.

 

Ferrari will provide less electric future than they have informed. The question is really if it is significantly less.

 

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Revised concept:
Proportions aren’t perfect however the concept is communicated.

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Hope that will not be true

 

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Will it have a spine like the F1 and GMA?

 

Under some additional magnification it looks like Lambo door open on the passenger side. Image matches pretty well with the sketch above.