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  1. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    The only thing bursting around here it's you....
     
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  2. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Nope, he drove very diferent Ferraris, all very diferent, and he always managed to cope withthem well.
     
  3. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I disagree. At the moment , Sainz seems to be coping with a car that is harder to drive, better than Charles.
     
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  4. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    No, the car isn't harder to drive than the 2020 version, it just suits more Carlos syyle...a gift from Mattia i presume, hopefully they will go in another direction next year.
     
  5. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    They will completely change the car according to Cardile and Vasseur for next year.
    The concept was too restricted in development.
     
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  6. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Sainz "laughing in the car" as Mercedes repeated DRS trick in F1 Japanese GP
    Carlos Sainz says he was "laughing in the car" during the Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix when he realised that Mercedes had borrowed the DRS trick he used in Singapore.
     
  7. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    https://f1i.com/news/487958-sainz-happy-to-try-things-despite-compromising-qualifying.html
    Sainz happy to ‘try things’ despite compromising qualifying

    Interesting insight into Sainz qualy preparation from Suzuka.

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    Sainz happy to ‘try things’ despite compromising qualifying
    Carlos Sainz says he doesn’t have any regrets about experimenting with his car’s set-up at Suzuka although the exercise ended up compromising his qualifying session.

    After last week’s high at Singapore, the prospect of a difficult weekend on a track unsuited for Ferrari encouraged Sainz to explore less conventional solutions in a bid to find a good balance for his SF-23.

    In the end, however, having lost his way, he opted to revert to a more basic set-up, but the process proved a distraction and a waste of time that eventually ended up setting him back rather than forward.


    "We knew before coming here that this track would expose us a bit more," said the Spaniard who will line up sixth on Sunday’s grid.

    "Probably with the high-speed characteristics, but also the long corners, high winds like we're having today, it was never going to be easy.
    "I took the approach yesterday and this morning to try different things on the car, try to change the balance quite a bit, and try different things on set-up to try and put the car a bit in a different place.

    "By the time of quali I saw that it was not quite working, and we had to go back to a more basic set-up, which in the end probably ended up compromising my quali preparation and my weekend in general.

    "But I'm happy to try those things, and now focus on tomorrow, see if we can do a good race. I don't think we could have done much more because honestly the McLarens and the Red Bulls this weekend, they look one step quicker."

    Sainz recognized that his approach was a gamble, but one that is sometimes necessary to “challenge” the car and himself.

    "Some weekends, where you know the car is weak, you need to challenge yourself, challenge the car a bit and try to put it outside its normal window to see if you can find something,” he argued.

    “That's what I tried this weekend. It definitely didn't help, but I don't think it made my life too complicated.

    “I also think Charles this weekend has been very quick and probably the unpredictability and the balance of the car being so tricky with the wind is not helping.

    "Charles must have done a very good lap," he said. "I didn't get a clean sector one in my last lap, which probably accentuated a bit the difference. Let's say he's been a tenth or two quicker all weekend.

    "And probably me being a bit distracted trying so many set-ups and never really getting into a rhythm didn't help. But it's an approach that I wanted to take to learn for the future circuits."
     
  8. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    No Carlos, you were just your usual you, 3 ths behind Charles.....no need for excuses...
     
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  9. jgonzalesm6

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  10. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The car only started suiting Carlos after the summer break. Prior to that, even he was struggling with the car. As someone said, it's too restricted, the window of opportunities is so limited.
     
  11. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Not really, i remenber the first tests and the whole Spanish press was cgeering because Carlos was doing better times and showing more confortable in the car thanCharles.....prooblem wa that even in those conditions Charles as soon as the year started was able to go faster than Carlos, and even when Sainz manages to beat him, the diference is minimum.
     
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  12. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Sainz have shown he's handling the car slightly better than Charles this year. However, there's barely much difference between the two until the summer break.

    Charles seems to 'gave up' on everything very early this year, ever since he more less found out that the car is POS.
     
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  13. Giallo 550

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    I would call it more of a **** all attitude. He played the "go for broke" game on multiple occasions. It's reminiscent of Gilles Villeneuve's approach, and I'm okay with that.

    Regardless, this season was one to forget with the exception of Carlos stopping Max.
     
  14. jpalmito

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    Frankly I didn’t believe we could win a race this season after the first GP.
    3 poles and one win with this dog of a car is absolutely an achievement ( no kidding).
    I would say Fred is doing a pretty solid job considering the situation he inherited.
     
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  15. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    I think so too, Vasseur looks competent for the job, i hope they give him time tk build a good team.
     
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  17. DeSoto

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    Are they going to leave that 499 with the Le Mans dirt forever? Maybe they should wrap it with the dirt below to preserve it.
     
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  18. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    He does deliver magic!
    Ps...who's the other one, his cousin Dudley?
     
  19. Giallo 550

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    Nandor the Relentless
     
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  21. DeSoto

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    It´s a pity, in these last 2 races we´ve been beating Mercedes at their own game (tyre degradation), but for whatever reasons only recovered two points. We´re going to need a big stroke of luck to recover 20 in 2 races.
     
  22. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    It's not that important, the only place that really matters is first!
     

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