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  1. Marcel Massini

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    The chassis number suffix of 0262 is MM, not just M.

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  2. Aardy

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    MM for a 166 MM/53 ? Incredible ! :eek:
    Thanks Marcel for the info !
     
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    4 October 1953, Pontedecimo-Giovi Hillclim, Italy

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    #68 Pinin Farina Coupe 212 Inter 0245EU Fontanella 5th in class 7’46’’4/10

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    Vignale Coupe 212 Inter 0237EU Enzo Pinzero 10th Overall, 2nd in class 7’02’’5/10

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    #150 Vignale Spyder 166 MM/53 0314M Edoardo Lualdi 4th in class 7’21’’4/10
    #152 Ferrari 166 Gerino Gerini 3rd in class 7’13’’4/10

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    #188 Vignale Spyder 340 America 0196A Camillo Luglio 7th Overall, 4th in class 6’54’’3/10

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    #196 Maserati A6GCM Monoposto Felice Bonetto 1st overall 6’20’’3/10
     
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  5. Marcel Massini

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    I understand that 0245 EU was ENTERED in the name of Scuderia Fontanella (Ferrari dealer in Torino) but the actual driver was car owner Agostino Lamberti.
    Lamberti had driven 0245 EU already at the Rallye Sestrières and in the Tuscany Cup 1953 (with co-driver Macchieraldo).

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  6. Aardy

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    OK Marcel. Thanks for that clarification !
     
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    Agostino Lamberti and Adolfo Macchieraldo had also entered for the 3° Les Douze Heures d’Hyères on 6 -7 June 1953 but DNS at the last minute because of bad weather.
     
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    Not so fast, #68 is clearly 0275EU.
     
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    Hey ! You are right. Body is the one with gutters on roof and larger chrome around grill. Doesn’t look like to the PF coupe (0245 EU so) raced at Rallye del Sestriere.
    Many thanks for the correction !
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  10. Marcel Massini

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    #735 Marcel Massini, Oct 5, 2023
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    Plate "TO 142803" was issued 19 February 1953 for 0245 EU. Registration dox in my archive.

    I took the below photo in 1982, when I inspected 0245 EU in Switzerland, of note is the massive chromed grille surround. My original color slide is slightly damaged (cut on top right).

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    Great pic and infos, thanks ! Hope 0245 EU is still in good condition today’s !
     
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    Fontanella was the Ferrari dealer of Turin at that time, but he hadn't a Scuderia on his name. Macchieraldo and Lamberti were members of the Racing club 19, the biggest racing club of Turin.
     
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    I have Scuderia Racing Club 19 also as entrant for Carlo Maria Abate, Canaparo and Ferdinando Pagliarini in the period 1959 - 1961, nothing for the period 1954 - 1959.
     
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  14. Marcel Massini

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    Scuderia Fontanella it was. That name was used, if it was a publicly registered ("official") entity I don't know, however.

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    I'm 100% sure because Fontanella's daughter is a friend of mine, also 3 sons of the 19 original founders of the racing club 19. I think probably some guys in the ACI organization mistaken his dealership with a Scuderia...in any case to mention Scuderia Fontanella isn 't historically correct.
     
  16. Marcel Massini

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    The information does NOT come from the "ACI Organization".

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    So, where it comes from? Who organized the Sestriere rallye instead?
     
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    A late note about Pescara—If it interests anyone, the family of Federico Valeriani has placed his Coppa Acerbo photo archive with Giorgio Nada Editore.
     
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    The Autosport report mentions no less than 3 Ferraris at the start, but does not give any details on the two missing ones. We need a Portuguese source I guess.
     
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    All quoted results are for the main 2.5 hour race. I have a note that there was also a Ferrari with race number #4 in the "Biggest little race" (result unknown).
    If true, that has to be Bill Devin.
     
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    18 October 1953 Coppa d'Oro di Sicilia, Italy

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    #14 Abarth Spyder 166 MM/53 0262MM Giulio Musitelli DNF in Heat 1 (S2.0)
    #20 Spider Corsa 166(?) 001S (?) Felice Ciancio 7th OA 5th IC (S2.0)
    #30 Pinin Farina Berlinetta 250 MM 0256MM Eugenio Castellotti DNF in Heat 2 (S+2.0)
    #32 Vignale Spyder 250 MM 0330MM Casimiro de Oliveira 1st OA 1st IC (S+2.0)
    #36 Motto Spyder 250 MM 0276MM Luigi Piotti 5th OA 5th IC (S+2.0)
    #40 Touring Barchetta 212 Export 0104E Enzo Pinzero DNF in Heat 2 (S+2.0)
    #42 Touring Barchetta 212 Export 0158ED Luigi Bordonaro 6th OA 4th IC (S+2.0)
    #44 Vignale Spyder 225 S 0176ED Antonio Stagnoli DNF in Heat 2 (S+2.0)
    #46 Vignale Spyder 212 Export 0182ED “Serano” Gilberto Cornacchia 8th OA 7th IC (S+2.0)
    ?? Ferrari Spyder 166 MM/53 0272M ?? Alberico Cacciari 9th OA 6th IC (S2.0)
    ?? Vignale Spyder 250 MM 0274MM ?? Piero Scotti DNF in Heat 2 (S+2.0)


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    #20 looks like to the car raced by Tramontana in 1952. Sometimes identified as 001S rebodied as Corsa Spyder. I don't know how much this is accurate and if it really was Felice Ciancio who raced #20. I have no pic of Cacciari and Scotti's cars.
     
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