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Discussion in '296' started by ajr550, Jun 5, 2022.

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  1. franticskwerrel

    Dec 19, 2022
    35
    That car will always hold a special place in my heart. Sadly, now even if you have the money for a track-focused version of the car, you have to be in the VIP list to get a shot. Love the ethos of the 992 GT3 (it doesn't even have trunk space, I love it), but I know I didn't buy enough Porsches to ever be able to spec one no matter how much money I throw at them.
     
  2. paulchua

    paulchua Cat Herder
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    Jul 1, 2013
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    Paul Chua
    Let's play "who said it?" @Chicko

    “....... to be honest with you, if you have a car with the perfect setup for the Nürburgring, it will be a dog on the street and everywhere else.”

    You can Google it obviously. It may surprise you who said this. (But what does that guy know that you don't right?)

    :)
     
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  3. jo_ker

    jo_ker Karting

    Mar 29, 2014
    207
    Germany/Austria
    will it be presented in 2024?

    hopefully.
     
  4. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    Mar 26, 2006
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    My understanding at this point is there are only 2 launches in 2024 f167 followed by F250
     
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  5. Ilferrarista92

    Ilferrarista92 Karting

    Dec 7, 2018
    98
    2024: F167, F167 GTS, F250

    2025: 296 VS, SF90 MCA, Icona SP4 (perhaps? And BEV.
     
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  6. jordanfsl

    jordanfsl Formula Junior

    Dec 11, 2010
    710
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    I would think mid to late 2025 at earliest, given the order backup they already have on GTB/GTS.
     
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  7. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

    Oct 29, 2016
    1,538
    There are 2 new models presented at Finali Mondiali this year.
    1: The 296 Challenge
    2: Some kind of Race Car / Hyper Car perhaps.
     
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  8. pninja005

    pninja005 Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2010
    583
    Europe
    Any change they will brand it XX?
     
  9. TheBigEasy

    TheBigEasy F1 World Champ
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    Jun 21, 2005
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    Pista
    Speciale
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    Challenge Stradale
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    GTO
    XX

    I'm sure it will be a completely new name.
     
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  10. pninja005

    pninja005 Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2010
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    Europe
    Do dealers already take pre-orders or is an official announcement required?
     
  11. ntatfas

    ntatfas Formula Junior

    Apr 27, 2011
    277
    UK
    I normally send in a letter with a deposit for an "unnamed" car that matches a certain description, eg "V6 Hybrid Sports Series" for the 296 GTB/GTS.

    Whilst that is no guarantee I will get a car, particularly if Ferrari are deciding upon or putting pre-conditions on allocations, it does mean my deposit is one of the first on their system.
     
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  12. DQSF

    DQSF Karting

    Dec 19, 2020
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    I’ve heard this from lots of people outside the US. In the US I’ve heard you can’t put a deposit down until the car is unveiled or you’re invited to (pre-sell limited series). Has anyone seen otherwise?



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  13. KL runner

    KL runner Formula Junior

    Jul 25, 2023
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    Not in US
    With this I would think you will have had to have owned a few models and need to have had a 296 to be considered , just as the allocation for the 488 pista was
     
  14. ferrariguyf12

    ferrariguyf12 Karting

    Aug 20, 2021
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    This is how it appears it is going to work in the US now. No deposits before unveiling for regular car.
     
  15. noobified

    noobified Karting

    Jun 5, 2008
    94
    If I did that, my dealer would call me up and ask, "Man, what are you doing?"
     
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  16. Data

    Data Karting

    Dec 11, 2007
    245
    "Thanks man, that will nicely go into a US Treasury money market fund so I can get some yield on that free money. Cheers!"
     
  17. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

    Oct 29, 2016
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    Since the 296 Challenge has been revealed, we get a better glimpse of what the 296VS will be.
    Atleast 40PS more from the V6 engine.
    They won't 'tune' the hybrid system so any additional power will come from the ICE only.
    Substantial weight savings on this "light Ferrari" will be tough to achieve.
    I'm guessing here a -40kg weight saving + 40ps more for the VS car next to a bit more agressive design but in no way a 296XX version.
     
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  18. Devilc

    Devilc Rookie

    May 5, 2023
    11
    Challenge has +37 PS, you think the street VS will get bigger bump for ICE engine? Why no tuning for the electric motor - didn't they do it for SF90 XX?
     
  19. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

    Oct 29, 2016
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    I'm 99% speculating here..... and basing the 1% off my experiences with my 488 Challenge en Pista.
    The Pista engine is the same as the Challenge engine. So everything they learned from that engine was passed on the Pista/F8 engine. I suspect they will do the same with Challenge engine and VS engine.
    Tuning the electric motor is a differnet game then 'simply' increasing boost on a turbo engine. Hence why I doubt they will opt for a change of that part.
    When you look at the recent jumps in performance, they seem to be getting smaller and smaller. So why do a large gap. AND there is the obvious elephant in the room... the SF90(xx). Can Ferrari allow the 296VS to be faster then the current halo car... I doubt it as it's a marketing nightmare!
    One thing we do know is that the 296VS will be an absolute beast!
     
  20. F2003-GA

    F2003-GA F1 World Champ
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    IMO they probably won't because they would want distinction between V8 and V6 markets
     
  21. ntatfas

    ntatfas Formula Junior

    Apr 27, 2011
    277
    UK
    A different approach to getting more from the hybrid system would be to use denser battery technology that needs fewer modules to deliver the same, or improved range/life (duration), whilst reducing the weight. The denser technology is available but Ferrari might not want to deploy such today.
     
  22. Jo Sta7

    Jo Sta7 F1 Veteran
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    Oct 13, 2015
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    Be nice to get the HP to a round 900. Not sure 70 HP is doable though.
     
  23. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
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    Very hard to achieve that with all the emissions and sound regulations for road cars.
     
  24. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

    Oct 29, 2016
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    I have a feeling the new special series cars will have minor power upgrades and just distinct styling features. AKA we might be paying a lot for just a different body kit (SF90XX!)
     
  25. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Veteran

    Jan 21, 2017
    5,713
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    The newest cars are becoming more and more versatile, and the so-called track-oriented versions are becoming marketing exercises with showing off being the main target - with each generation, this trend is reaching another level since the 360 CS. The 355 Challenge was a road legal race car, but afterwards the evolution could be expected.
     
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