LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

A production road legal car is planned. But the "Pure" Track Only version is going into production first. There was a Top Gear or something video recently but I haven't watched it.

 

the road legal car will be pretty much the same

 

I am also planning world domination. Whenever a road going Sperling goes on sale, let me know...

The creator of the Speirling said that it is nigh on impossible to make it road legal. They still hope though...

 

****'em then, there's nothing they can do to stop Ferrari.

I disagree completely.

Who says it's gonna be at a loss ?!? That's just your wrong perception.

The HALO won't be slower. Make it the way I said and it's gonna be way way faster. The light weight alone will make a world of difference.

 

Making the V12 a bigger displacement will add very little weight. Let's assume it's gonna weigh around 1100 kg, that's still a huge win and weight reduction compared to a porker like the SF90.

 

Ferrari have several models on offer, not just 1.
Having just one of them a no compromises pure race car won't affect them at all.

 

Another great photo from Derek

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I was thinking just now...

If Porsche is gearing up for their next car which will be a full blown hybrid, Mission X. McLaren probably will try something different. Though I still don't agree with it. A V12 miiiiiight not be enough this time Laferrari lost against the P1 on most tracks. But somehow the 488 Pista which is...one of my favorite Ferraris by the way was able to take down these 3 giants Laferrari, P1, and 918 lap time wise. Maybe they took note of it this time around and thought adding turbos to a V6 would help.

Time will tell. Let's just see what happens...

 

That's all down to tyres, with the optional Trofeor Rs of the P1 making a big difference.

 

it's never a completely fair race unless done on same day ,
same driver
with same fuel, battery, etc. level,
and same tires.

 

Speaking of lap times, acceleration test, ofcourse.

 

excellent angle to show how much cladding there still is on the front

 

I believe this is as close as you'll get but there were detractors of course.

There's 3 parts. Fitting.

 

In my opinion lap times are totally irrelevant. It is all about desirability in this segment and when it comes to that nothing beats the LaF. All you need to do is check out the current prices of the LaF, P1, 918…With the same money you can buy a LaF today (at least where I live) you can get a decent P1, a 918 and a Senna and probably have enough change to buy a Range Rover…the comparison becomes even more acute when you consider a SP3 is 3+ times more valuable than a P1 or 918 and wont even get close to them on track…
Anyone playing in this segment who wants lap times owns a racecar and would avoid devaluing their hypercar by taking it to a track. Buy a 488GT3 for less than any of those supercars and you can beat them easily on track.




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lap times are important as is straight line performance just on the basis that it shows how ferrari are relative to other current manufacturers

I actually think the next hypercar from ferrari will be extremely good on track but at a big loss to comfort, which is fine imo

 

Finally, some common sense.

 

Definitely not planning to sell it before! Maybe even after but depends on lots of things - long time between now and F250 deliveries.

 

I’ve driven that car. It’s like nothing you can imagine. It proves that electric can be as captivating as ICE but in a different way. It’s noisy and the most visceral thing I’ve ever driven - LaFerrari doesn’t even come close to the Speirling’s assault on your senses. For cars at ‘normal’ level though, you can’t make the excitement of ICE obsolete with EV.

 

Market doesn’t lie. The LaF is art as well as motion, the others less so somehow. It’s a very subjective opinion I know, but I’m obviously not the only one who thinks so. It’s not just the V12 though. It’s the feel, look, handling. It’s just very very special. With the V12, the character of the car is enhanced that much more. I reckon a 918 is more usable though. Nobody cares about track times except a Ferrari hyper car shouldn’t be slow. It is a bit incongruous for Ferrari, whose reputation is built on racing, to build a hyper car - the pinnacle of its know-how - that is off the pace on a track. Everyone would sacrifice a few tenths in the name of those other Ferrari attributes of beauty, feel and drama. But not a few seconds. I don’t think any of the hypers have been a few seconds off the pace of the competitors so they won’t want to start now. Maybe that’s why TT V6. Leave the V12 for Icona. The F250 can’t be slow, V12 or not.

 

110% otherwise the obligatory Fiorano laptimes with each car wouldn't be released. Ferrari is built on competition it's what's always driven them. Can't do that on a Formula One track with yourselves as the only entrants.

Rivalry is needed in all areas.

 

watch it a long time, so not 100% sure, but i think the tires where not the same.
A tire alone is easily a second or so per lap here.

 

Your absolutely right. I know they do.

I'm positive there was a test where all three had the same tyres and driver one or the other.

I'm thinking the Portimao Top Gear Test or the Salomadorin one in the United States of America.

I might be wrong, and if that's the case it's tragic all three of them were never tested thus. It doesn't matter now I guess.

Next time I'll triple check- Thanks.

But I'd do what Paul Bailey did and buy all three!

 

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FYI, I think you mean the Grand Tour (Top Gear follow-up) episode where they made a point of having the same tire/driver/track. Differences were minimal (all within 0.8 seconds on a 2 minute lap), but the P1 was slowest. Because it did not have its proprietory sticky rubber or something. LaFerrari was almost exactly as fast as the 918 there. Do keep in mind that GT/TG is entertainment first and not even remotely close to journalism

 

I'll have to look it up. But it's the driver plus track that then comes into play. All Top Gear or the other one (never bothered it, at all) do/did was aire the results as you say.

But it doesn't matter too if one second +/- is all that separated them. They are all legendary hypercars.