F1 In Vegas?

huh? You're talking about hourly workers here?

 

Forecast is showing rain for race day

 

In this particular thread I'm talking about a labor strike that could seriously damage the F1 race. I was pointing out that the hotel workers union involved seemed to be part of a nationwide labor strike mentality. I won't go further because that becomes P&R.

 

Yeah, I know. Sad. I hope she can recover but it doesn't sound good. Regardless she'd get my vote for the anthem. Class act.

 

If that's of any consolation to you, it's not nationwide, but WORLDWIDE !

 

are you gonna be in vegas next week for F1?

 

Yeah you've said quite enough.

 

FYI - NO STRIKE

F1 Ticket Prices Are Plunging Ahead Of Next Weekend’s Race On The Las Vegas Strip.
CNN (11/9, Valinsky) reports, “Ticket and hotel room prices are falling sharply in Las Vegas as the gambling mecca preps to host its first Formula 1 Grand Prix race in four decades next week.” Aftermarket ticket seller TickPick noted “excitement has ‘started to fizzle’ in recent weeks with a ‘big factor’ being that driver Max Verstappen already won this year’s championship title in Qatar on October 7, thus dampening enthusiasm among the sport’s fans as it nears the end of the season.” TickPick noted tickets “have plunged 35% in the past month for the Saturday race, with the average ‘get-in’ price dropping from $1,645 to $1,060 for grandstand seats.” Those same tickets “were priced at roughly $2,000 a year ago for the Las Vegas race.”

Room Rates For Las Vegas Grand Prix Weekend Dip Further.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal (11/9, N. Velotta) reports F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix “weekend room rates on the Strip continue to decrease one week out from the inaugural race.” As an example, four Caesars Entertainment properties “have fallen as much as 75 percent leading up to race weekend Nov. 16-18., since first posted in November 2022,” and “the three properties with rooms remaining Thursday combined saw an average price decrease of 68 percent since Nov. 2, 2022.”

KLAS-TV Las Vegas (11/8, Matthey) also reports.

 

Apologies if this has been posted before but here is a comparison between the original Vegas track from the 80's and the one next week.

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Ticket prices have dropped massively.

The race will be reduced to merely background noise for many while they whoop it up at the bar

 

Thanks, very cool comparison. Makes the original track look like a go-kart track in comparison. Its layout really lacked any kind of imagination, then again they were restricted by the space they had.

 

Foreshadowing that it's going to be a real Oinker??

sjd

 

After lap 5 its old news these days lol. Dont miss the fight for P7-P15 lol - Yo bartender can you make a DRS

 

The one question left and soon answered. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/can-f1s-las-vegas-grand-prix-possibly-live-up-to-the-hype/10545378/

Can F1's Las Vegas Grand Prix possibly live up to the hype?
Next weekend Formula 1 heads to the highly-anticipated Las Vegas Grand Prix for the first time in over 40 years. But can the street spectacle around the iconic Strip possibly live up to the hype?
Author Filip Cleeren

Updated Nov 11, 2023, 3:15 PM


Capitalising on the success of Netflix hit Drive to Survive, which brought a huge new demographic to the series, American F1 owner Liberty Media was keen to exploit its new-found popularity in the United States and add to the existing race in Austin.

The first step was a race in Miami, the perfect example of the kind of "destination cities" that F1 wanted to gain a foothold in.

While the racing spectacle at Miami Gardens was hardly unforgettable in 2022, the 2023 race provided a better show to keep up with the off-track glitz and glamour that entertained hordes of celebrities and VIPs.

Racing around the Miami Dolphins stadium was one step towards conquering the US, but F1's move to Las Vegas represents a whole different ballgame.

Vegas was a dream target of Liberty Media, to the extent that it made the unprecedented decision to promote the race itself and buy a plot of land near the famous Strip to build a permanent pit and paddock facility.

It is estimated F1 has spent north of half a billion dollars on the event, which it plans to host until at least 2032, showcasing just how much F1 believes the event will work on the long-term.

The hype it has stirred up has topped the one around Miami and there's certainly some justification for it.

F1 managed to get its 6.2km [3.8mi] street course to include a 2km part of the Strip, which the city council has agreed to close down for the race.

While the layout itself is hardly the most inspiring, and likely wouldn't work turn heads elsewhere, the sight of 20 F1 cars racing along the likes of the Bellagio, the MGM Grand and the new MSG Sphere at night is going to provide F1 with dazzling images.

It is certainly a far cry from the twisty Caesars Palace car park layout used in the 80s. And whatever happens to the race, pulling that off is a remarkable achievement by F1 and a sign of its pulling power in 2023.

The county itself is also banking on the success of its "billion dollar" event to justify the $40 million of public money spent on repaving the Strip (Why was public money even used??), and appease the local residents who have been caught out by lengthy disruptions over the past months.

But F1's very own Superbowl also comes at a price for the fans. A hefty one.

When sales opened, general admission tickets went for $500 USD (including food and beverages), while single day grandstand tickets for Sunday range between $1,155 and $1,760, with weekend tickets closer to $3,000. That comes on top of securing a hotel room in the vicinity of the circuit, prices of which have fortunately come down in recent weeks.

The cheapest tickets go for $165. For the opening ceremony on Wednesday which features a range of artists but no cars.

It shows the event itself, in the US's sports and entertainment capital, isn't aimed at F1's traditional fan base watching on TV, a split which was already clear from Miami's exaggerated prices.

Talking about TV, ironically the 10pm local race start and midnight qualifying session, while palatable for EU and Asian audiences, will be toughest on the majority of the US population, which lives on the east coast three hours ahead.

But for Americans who want to experience F1 live, it is cheaper to fly to a race in Europe rather than sit in the cold, as temperatures of 8C or 45F are expected this time of the year.

With the Vegas race held one week later in 2024, you have to wonder how many people just wanted to be there and be seen for its inaugural race and how many will actually return next year at current prices.

They just might, if they see an incredible spectacle, as inflated prices come with inflated expectations.

When it comes to the on-track action, the cold doesn't have to be exclusively negative. If there is one thing the 2023 season, which many fans feel has started to outstay its welcome, can use it's a sprinkling of chaos to raise the stakes.

Thankfully, F1's dreaded track limits won't be much of an issue on the tight street course, as any run-offs would have extended into the lobby of a swanky casino.

But tyre warm-up in frosty conditions could well throw a curveball.

Present a straightforward race and Red Bull is likely to blitz it. The cold, combined with unknown factors like the state of the tarmac, will give the teams some new headaches that could mix up the order, much like 2023's dominant force was humbled in Singapore.

Furthermore, there are no support series on the schedule, so grip levels on the brand-new Strip tarmac will be very low as it is, and we will see a massive track evolution across the weekend.

F1 would certainly benefit from an all-action Vegas return, as Max Verstappen's astonishing dominance in 2023 has seen interest cool and domestic TV ratings drop, so ensuring its US boom is sustainable will be at least as challenging as creating it in the first place.

It is therefore understandable that both F1 and its stakeholders are leaving no stone unturned to big up Vegas even beyond the level of Miami.

But the more you hype up an event, the higher the chance that it won't fulfil those expectations.

At least Miami had the mirage of a championship battle going for it, but with both titles long decided, it will truly need to pull off more than pretty pictures and first-class hospitality to justify the buzz.

 

Yeah it will probably end up being a 50/50 proposition. It will look good on TV and it might be a fun race to watch due to the layout of the street course and cold temps.

But being there, in the cold, with the high prices, might not be all that great. And yeah, the start time is off, should be more like 8pm local time.

 

They find fans in the US market and start this race so late. Perplexing is what that is. Sunset would be better and appeal to more people. The event has an utter strangeness to it I cannot define at all.

 

Until recently, I wasn't full aware of it, but the timing of the race, and the temperature may be a huge damper on that GP.
More than ever, tyre choice and strategy will greatly influence the result.
How the teams will keep the tyres in their operative temperature window will be interesting to watch.
We will learn more from the practice sessions.

 

Tires will be the name of the game I think. I hope they are bringing the softest compounds. Even the C3 as a hard tire will likely be hard to fire up. I don't think there are any proper high speed corners. It's mostly slow speed corners and curved straights in between.

Ferrari may actually have a chance.

 

heard hotels as well . Dropping real fast ...

 

Shortest tenure in FChat history?

 

Taylor Swift. Because $$.

 

Good thought, but no. Kelce has a football game on Sunday.

 

she could've at least posted some pictures.

 

Liberty should make Vegas Race #1. Start season with this event!!

 

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