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Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by lil squid, Jun 9, 2008.

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  1. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

    Jul 11, 2003
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    Don't worry, I love the concept of your book, with or without replica section. There is just no way to keep all happy, in the end it simply comes down to YOUR opinion as the author.
     
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  2. Dominik B.

    Dominik B. Karting

    Mar 5, 2017
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    Write two books :) Real and Replica. I buy both.
     
  3. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Precisely.
     
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  4. Yan-Alexandre

    Yan-Alexandre Karting

    Dec 15, 2016
    167
    I should considered premium signed limited edition in leather-bound case at 1000 $, what do you think ? :D
     
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  5. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

    Sep 3, 2021
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    The fabulous Aston Martin DB4GT book by Palawan also includes the much-criticised "Sanction Cars". And "Sharknose V6" by McKlein includes the recreation of those cars as all original cars have been destroyed. As well, there are many books which include conversions of cars, may it be the Koenig cars in case of the Berlinetta Boxer or certain Porsche 911 conversions. And don't forget the 288 Evoluzione fakes created by Ferrari themselves for rich customers! Should we never talk about these cars in books? And what about the built-from-new GTO and TR engines by Ferrari Classiche, which astonishingly get their originality stamp?

    You have to include these subjects to get the full picture. Therefore: @Yan-Alexandre: Go for it!
     
  6. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes. That will subsidize a lower cost for the rest of us.;) We’re all socialists here!:D
     
  7. jm2

    jm2 F1 World Champ
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    Aug 19, 2002
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    Yore going to have to speak for yourself on that count.:rolleyes: Socialists, that is.
     
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  8. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    (I think you know better.)

    :D
     
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  9. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    Feb 27, 2004
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    I’d have no trouble paying $50, and I could probably manage $75, but probably not more than that. Good luck with it regardless.


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  10. seb333

    seb333 Karting

    Jul 30, 2009
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    Is the GTO prototype called papero or papera?
     
  11. davew

    davew Formula Junior
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    Jul 26, 2006
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    I look forward to your book and appreciate all of your time and effort!

    I wonder how the conversation about what to include would go if the book subject was 330 P4? Just joking..
     
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  12. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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  13. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, it’s shown on one of the proof pages.
     
  14. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

    Nov 5, 2015
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    @Yan-Alexandre Since you made the pocket sized book as a "spotters" guide to the GTO it would be best to include a separate replica section so that those showing up at an event can be easily identified as real or a replica.

    Please let us know how to order a copy when available.

    Thanks
     
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  15. Yan-Alexandre

    Yan-Alexandre Karting

    Dec 15, 2016
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    Yes, there are 4 pages on the 250 GT racing car lineage, including 2643GT and 1791GT.
     
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  16. Yan-Alexandre

    Yan-Alexandre Karting

    Dec 15, 2016
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    Oh, that's a good question ! Il papero, la papera, what's the gender of that car ? (something i need to correct indeed)
     
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  17. Yan-Alexandre

    Yan-Alexandre Karting

    Dec 15, 2016
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    It is ! ;-)
    To make things clear, the book covers 4.0-litre cars and replicas in two short side chapters.

    It doesn't describe all the replicas, but shows 8 typical examples of what you might come across at events where you'd expect to see only original cars. For example, there are hints on how to tell the real 4399GT from the fake, and around 70 chassis numbers of various Ferraris converted into GTO replicas, so you won't be fooled.

    As this is a separate chapter, these cars are described in brief (as are the 4.0-litre cars), with far fewer details than the authentic 250 GTOs: just an illustration of how they look today, a few lines of text per car and the events at which these replicas were seen.

    Again: my point is that these cars are fake, and that they have no place in events of the calibre of Goodwood or Le Mans Classic. As the organisers want to pass them off as the real thing, I show you in the book that they are not, because you have the right to know what you saw.
     
  18. Yan-Alexandre

    Yan-Alexandre Karting

    Dec 15, 2016
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    Finally, to finish on the subject, because I feel like I'm highjacking this thread, a bit of information about what's coming next.

    The initial plan was to offer it as a print on demand with direct sales on the internet. But I'm not happy with the print quality of this first copy (the colours on the inside pages are much fainter than on the photos I sent you, and some of the illustrations no longer resemble the cars at all), and switching to a better print quality from the company that printed this book would push the costs way beyond the price window I've set - my aim is to offer it for less than €50.

    So I'll have to print a batch of books, which will cut costs considerably, and I'll probably use a traditional printer to have more control over quality.
    As a result, I'll be turning my little Parisian flat into a publishing house, which wasn't my original idea at all...

    I'm also going to have to invest in this batch of books, so I'm thinking of launching a crowdfunding campaign very soon to finance the printing. I need to work out the details, and think about how many books I'm going to need to produce, analyse the costs in detail, etc... So I'm probably going to create a first limited launch edition, which could be numbered and signed, of 50, 100 or 250 copies depending on the interest (the idea not necessarily being to sell them for more, but to thank those who supported the launch of the project).
     
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  19. seb333

    seb333 Karting

    Jul 30, 2009
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    #6244 seb333, Nov 16, 2023
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    I remembered having read “il papero” , le canard, but then was not sure anymore. Then if “la papera” is “le vilain petit canard” it suits the body quality of the early prototype…
    Count on me to want one or more, I find it a perfect gift for friends…
    The spotter of the spotter guide
     
  20. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 2, 2005
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    It is NOT the organisers that want to pass them off as the real thing.
    It is the owners of these horrible fakes and shixty replicas. Event organisers oftentimes have no knowledge at all, that's why they "depend" on the information supplied by the replica owners.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  21. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

    Sep 3, 2021
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    In the future, organisers just take @Yan-Alexandre 's book into their hands and then are well informed, because replicas are included ... ;)
     
  22. F1tommy

    F1tommy F1 World Champ
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    Dec 15, 2007
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  23. F1tommy

    F1tommy F1 World Champ
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    I suggested to them they might want to do a few vintage racing Aston Martin(mainly from the beginning until 1967) and Ferrari books pre modern era. I think early Maserati is being well covered now, model by model by Walter Baumer.
     
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  24. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
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  25. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Here’s a suggestion, perhaps too late to include: Many spotters’ guides have a few pages at the back for “notes.”
     
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