Pls keep in mind that English is not his native tongue. Considering that, his command of the language is nigh on excellent. He makes some valid points. But day355 was wrong about the SF90XX being an aborted XX track project, as he was wrong about the Stradale's weight.
Exactly what the instructors from both Challenge and XX series say. They are heavy driving test laboratories NOT designed to be the fastest cars. You want to be the fastest around the track, get the 488Modificata. It will lap the SF90XX.
FXX have to forgive their owners, and they are of very different levels. The car is therefore the result of a consensus, which is not the case for a GT1/GT2/GT3. A gentleman driver is not a driver, there is a world in between...
it could, and will, but again if they are adding 3 electric motors and (big) battery, don't expect miracles
FXX 90 (i.e. in XX configuration not road legal) has been tested at Mugello several times with the FXX-K. The times were shorter than those of the FXX-K, the project was aborted
... when you can't defend your own words and actions, attack me? Don't worry no one will ever know how fos you are
I think they are testing a lot of different ideas and theres a great chance for a misunderstanding because they are never going to just tell everyone everything. A fun example is just before the 458 was released, some people said it will absolutely contain the single clutch system from the Scud, but even faster. And some said it will be the DCT from the California. And both were right because they were testing both. Ferrari has to explore a lot of avenues. So I think sometimes we might hear rumors of something, if it never comes to be, it could still be rooted in some fact. I like to believe the people posting in an enthusiasts forum usually have the best of intentions. My reaction to all of this is wondering if this is a little bit like when they released the 599 GTO. Everyone said- whoa, those initials… is this really a GTO? Did it ever race? Well, it’s kind of a XX car for the road…. There was a lot of debate over the initials, but, 12 or so years later, I think we can say the name of the 599 GTO has certainly not harmed its place in history. So maybe theres some confusion on this car right now, but I think it will find its spot, and it will be a good one. You have to remember, we will better know where it sits once we see future models. I think they are telling us this is a higher performance SF90, which is already high performing. Using more track tech to get to that performance- but a car for the street and street car drivers. One of the reviewers pointed out they left “Stradale” in the name. So they are literally telling us this is as much a street car as it is a track car and no one with track experience will expect this to be truly a track car- I think we all expect a more involving and higher performing car that can hang with a track car for a fun day at the track with friends as was said and then drive home in relative comfort and style. (The last part will depend on your own take on the styling) I think it looks great, but thats just me. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
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I do wonder if Ferrari regrets not doing a Senna-type vehicle before the hybrid era set in. A heavily boosted turbo V8 with no hybrid assist with an exterior design inspired by the F40 would have amazing.
I guess that they could have built such a car, if they desired so. The fact that they haven't, indicates towards their intentions. I mean to say that some people are always arguing "light, lighter, lightest", but other than the Valkyrie, which in my humble opinion is the best hypercar made till now, and the T50, which is not fast/quick enough to be included in this discussion, which other hypercar is light? Weight is just a number. What matters is how the car performs.
Nor is a Gt2Rs or Gt3RS. The are all tweaked for road use, as the sf90xx is, but become still on tracks blistering fast. i wouldnt call the Sf90 xx as a 2 tonne car, driving ready 1800kg istn to bad, with that kind of power. 2tonnes car is a Revuelto…
It also matters how a car feels. Imagine an ~800 pound person sitting in the passenger seat of a Senna (weight difference to the XX).
All machines are build according to their dimensions/weight. A 900 kg F1 car is superior to a 500 kg F4 car. No?
Machines are built to the constraints that the regulations, budgets and technologies allow. If Ferrari engineers could freely remove 800 pounds from the XX, you bet they would. Same goes for F1 engineers.
Engineering is an exercise in compromises. For sure Ferrari would love to detract 350 kilos and add 200 CV, but these care are still built within these constraints and all that matters is the end result. not a kg fogure.
Please read the original day355's post again, where he took a shot at the difference. Even Ferrari "pure" XX-programme cars are far from eg. GTE or even GT3 race cars, though GT3s are also targeted at so called gentlemen drivers, as the XX are. That said, the SF90 XX STRADALE is even milder version of a traditional Ferrari XX-attributed car, because it is produced as a road car, and you are not restricted to racing days to use it etc. A road car with bits of XX is a win-win for Ferrari and people who always wanted something like XX variant for the road.
Unlike GTO - XX is a brand new road program and a great beginning. At the end of the "Day" he's a hack talking smack - because he hasn't bought a new Ferrari in many years. I've seen his tactics and dramatics - why he posts in threads he clearly does not like the model is beyond me. Time will tell - the greatest cars are decided by their owners.
Again, what does this have to do with the SF90 XX? Yep, it’s a street car. Ferrari’s not apologizing for it. He’s been biased toward the SF90 since day one, so even if this car was a track only beast, he’d still rant about something. I assume you’re able to recognize my opinion is as important as his…
