2023 Las Vegas GP: Post Race Analysis

Is it possible the Casinos forced the start time? When are the slots and tables most occupied? Surely not in the middle of the night - even in Las Vegas. Who really prefers a night race in the cold over sitting in the stands, in the sun, during the day. Are rocket scientists needed here? This race was entertaining but it could have been better for the fans (at the track or viewing on TV). Is the objective of coming to Las Vegas with the GP circus to expand the attraction in the USA or in Europe? Oh, then again, maybe it was the NFL that LM knew they would never win viewers from.

 

I have not watched the race all the way. I fell asleep as I had it on live... so I did not see the excitement... I have it recorded but it has not enthused me to watch it.

Ferrari can't deliver... that is the sad thing... Red Bull continues domination... good for them.

as for Las Vegas - it seemed a lot to do about nothing. The track shots, it looks like it could be Singapore, or Doha or Abu Dhabi. ... none of those are my favorite tracks. And since while Watching F-1 in the USA for my entire life I 've had to get up early in the AM on a Sunday or watch it recorded .. .why cant the Europeans do that for once? and they could have the race at a decent hour? Having a race that starts a 1AM est.. to me is stupid.

Then when you add in the cost of tickets, and the absurd hospitality... it seems less than a success... I hope F-1 learns something from this... but sadly I dont think they will.

 

Disagree on the 2nd and 3rd paragraph.

Leclerc did what he could do with that Ferrari and finished P2....ahead of overtaking Perez on the last lap. That move by Leclerc was impressive on Perez. The 2nd SC really messed up Ferrari's strategy.

That long straight strip is nothing like Singapore nor Abu Dhabi. It's more like Baku but just a tad shorter and the speed at which these cars reached was above 230mph......good overtaking speed there too.

 

I think it is a combination of things:

- the casinos certainly wanted the race to be late so people spend $ before it on the tables
- Liberty (and probably the organizers in Las Vegas) wanted a late race so it is TV ready for the Sunda morning viewers in Europe

I was also thinking why a night race to begin with, it's not that hot in late November in Las Vegas. I'm guessing that has something to do with undoing the track on Sunday so the streets are ready again for Monday morning traffic.

Just my guesses. That aside I totally agree the times are stupid for folks in Las Vegas as well as the TV audience in the US.

 

Any guesses on how the bottom line financials come out?

 

The race started at 10pm Vegas time. So anyone attending the race would have been at the track, rather than the Casino's between 9pm-midnight. That is normally a very busy time period for the Casino's.

^^+1000 I actually enjoy getting up early on a Sunday and watching quali/race.

 

Good point. I got my time difference mixed up. Thanks.

 

Check out in another thread: This was a smashing success for the casinos with a new record in revenue for a weekend.

In other words: This Grand Prix will become a stable on the F1 calendar. I'm happy for that.

 

I think lots of people are wrong. I was one of the lowly masses with $2500 tix in the sphere zone. It was fantastic and fun. Passing all over the track. Drivers has better track than they expected. Max is n ot PC and even he changed his tune on LV. We all watch for the race but if you are here it's great to have something more to fill the time and vegas delivers on and off the track.

I would like the time of everything to start at dark because walking back at 2am is late for me. But vegas is just banging at 2am. Casinos are full and active with not only race fans but the regular vegas night life people clubbing and partying. Lots of pretty women in club dress for sure are not there for the race but don't show until after midnight. That seems to be when vegas gets started. Vegas is a great venue with wide appeal.

 

Come on, man! You don't have to *be* Net-Zero... You just have to *say* you are!

Kevin

 

It's Vegas. It's over-the-top excess. Driving the top 3 finishers around to the Bellagio in a 2023 Rolls Royce with "Star Ceiling" atmosphere. Then getting back in the Rolls to the actual podium for the celebration. The fireworks show was also impressive from various Hotels and Casinos. Then they partied to their hearts content.

Viva Las Vegas!! Yes, it's all about the show and what better place to promote it.

 

Can you name some?

Not to argue, but it's an interesting comment/question. Personally I can't think of many. The Istanbul, the Korean and the Malaysian GP come to mind, not much else: There are many great tracks around the world but they don't meet today's F1 standards. Of course they could be beefed up and made to par, but that's not my question here. Valencia or the Indianapolis GP would also qualify, but I don't think anybody would really want those back.

I do agree that we are missing at the very least the African continent. Kyalami or Moroc would be great additions to the calendar. I'd also love to see the Argentinian GP come back. But all these would need major infrastructure investments.

 

Here you go with the real full size one in Paris, not the tiny plastic one in Nevada


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1) I met a couple who paid $1000 for a ticket and thought that was just fine. I think COTA is similar. They waited it out when prices fell. Hotel rates at most hotels weren't worse than other F1 or sporting events. Yes, some rich people paid through the nose but most of those who came didn't arrive in private jets.
2) Can't say I disgree. Europeans don't own DVRs? It should have started about 8-9 and been over by 11.
3) Agree. Here is what Steve Hill of LVCVA said today in an interview. It was tough enough to pull off an F1 race their first time and wanted to concentrate on that. Also it would have exhausted the security and support people. But the event will change next year to adapt.
4) Its Vegas baby. Its what people want when they come here... over the top. Hollywood would have been the same. All countries have their own way of promoting themselves. Thsi is the Vegas way. Its marketing, which brings in the $$$ that allows the races to happen.
5) I really didn't pick that up. There were some excellent concerts though.
6) So who do you kick out? Miami? COTA? You tell me who get the short stick. And with the Vegas race being one of the best attended at the highest prices, it would seem Vegas isn't the one to get voted off the island.
7) Actually, its bigger than the Superbowl. About 2 times the economic benefit, and over half of them from out of the country.

 

Thanks!

Is this real or a photo shop? It looks like it could be real.

 

Those would be the main objections for people who came to watch a weekend of racing but ended up paying for plenty of stuff they didn't want to see.
I have no idea if it's cultural, but why so many things in the US are so much over the top ?

 

Oops, my bad. Didn't think of them. Yes they are ok. I loved Hockenheim when it still had the Ostkurve. Too bad there isn't more support in Germany for a GP. Not really Liberty's fault.

 

There would still be a French and a German GP. Both countries have suitable circuits.
But promoters in Europe baulk at the fees demanded to host a GP.

 

It's the fees asked by Liberty which are the stumbling block.
There is still an outstanding debt of €9millions from the last French GP, I read.

 

actually I think it's fake but if you Google Eiffel tower F1 you will see that Alpine did their launch there early 2022 with Alonso, Ocon.

 

Las Vegas looks like trash during the day. It looks fancy at night.