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2023 Las Vegas GP: Post Race Analysis

Discussion in 'F1' started by SS454, Nov 19, 2023.

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  1. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    I didn’t see max stay on track and Charles get pushed off. They both went off. Keep kneeling. Feelings matter. 3x champ at 26. Get real dude
     
  2. 11506apollo

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    Give Charles, Carlos, Nando and a few others that RedBull car and they would also be 3x WC....but with class....dude.
     
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  3. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    if you say so,
     
  4. Bas

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    they would definitely not have won 2021.
     
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    How is Max seen to lack class?? I actually find him quite classy. He is brimming with confidence and has a slightly arrogant feeling about him, but I never see him act without class.
     
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  6. jgonzalesm6

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    Sometimes you have to be with your "elbows out" in order to win championships.

    Another icon in the NBA that didn't win with class was Michael Jordan. He was arrogant on the court and a trash talker to his opponents and his team-mates. Surely not winning "with class" has simply left the building in todays society.

    What about business? You think Steve Jobs got to be where he was with Apple because he had class? How about Bill Gates and building Microsoft? You think he did it with class? Jeff Zuckerberg and Facebook I'm sure did it with class!!(sarcasm).

    You think Lawrence Stroll built his multi-billion dollar empire "with class?"

    It takes a type A personality now a days to get what you want...fyi.
     
  7. chipbiii

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    European cheap bastards! ;)
     
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    As they would say in Jamaica, “Learn to live wid it, mon!”
     
  9. SS454

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    Apparently Carlos Sainz did 366 kph during the race in Vegas. That's massive for this generation of car. I suspect the 2004-2005 cars would have hit 375+ in the draft.
     
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    I am not labeling Max the person of not having class. I am not judging the person MV. I dont know him personaly and will never do. I am judging the Max race driver, whom we all know enough to judge. I find him lacking class on the race track, pushing others around, and crashing onto others. He will force and push with no regards for the rules of engagement. I have never seen Charles Lecrerc doing that. He is a tough racer too but with class. Thats the difference to me. I think his father may be behind his attitude, maybe, maybe not. Perhaps Christian H is behind that, fanning the flames. Maybe is the RB 19 that gives him the "God given right" to push others out if his way. Or, maybe is his "Lisp" that gets to my nerves.....LOL.
     
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    Totally on board with you and SS454. Let's not forget the one big aspect of Las Vegas that seems to have been mistaken for glitz, glamor, and excess; Las Vegas isn't real. It is phony. The people who go there for the most part are living out fantasies of excess and wealth. If you saw them in their home environment you wouldn't recognize them. This, for me, is probably the most objectionable aspect of having F1 associated with Las Vegas. By a ratio of 10:1 the people I know wouldn't be caught dead in Las Vegas.
     
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    Max acts like a spoiled brat, but as a WC, I expect copious amounts of ego. He's one good crash from being humbled
     
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    Everyone you know goes to Atlantic city instead? or they are all over 50? I kid. I worked in Vegas for a while, I understand the rest of the place far from the strip. The strip is for nobodies to have an adult theme park of excess and frivolity, but it's a young person's game, if you are over 30, you are invisible and that can break someone's spirit. I'm doing the move to Vegas as a primary, but keep my LA place. The only way I am moving back to Long Island is in an urn. The social ills of the island are worse than what I see in Vegas, so I'll take my lot
     
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    Tend to agree with this as well, dont forget that the slightest infringement, no matter how minor or trivial and he's on the radio in a millisecond, Russel is the same. No class - For me he should keep his gob shut and get on with steam rolling through the season, it wont last forever!!
     
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  15. Mitch Alsup

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    His display of arrogance is what prevents Max from having class.
     
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