Image Unavailable, Please Login Agree with Brian the #523 at 1954 Mille Miglia (now a real early Scaglietti spyder) is the spyder seen at Casablanca in 1953 with #20.
Then three serial numbers (0302TF, 0304TF and 0306TF) for all these cars which were all restamped together during the 1953 season ! Good luck to know the truth ! And hoping there wasn’t a fourth car in 1953 !! Now speculation : - car 1 : « Farina spyder » which was sold to Roberto Bonomi : 0302TF (or 0306TF ?), probably born as the Vignale coupe with profiled nose. - car 2 : « Hawthorn spyder » which was sold to Luis Milan : 0304TF ? - car 3 : « Ascari spyder » which became the early Scaglietti spyder seen at Mille Miglia in 1954 : 0306TF (or 0302TF ?). Questions remain : was the « Hawthorn spyder » originally the Vignale coupe with larger nose or was there only one Vignale coupe with two different noses ? I wish you a Merry Christmas with this beautiful brainstorming !
What please is a Farina Spyder? Pinin Farina? Zero connection to 0302 TF. If you want to discuss these cars you MUST ALWAYS include photos, without that you will only create more confusion. One will also be well advised to always consult the factory build sheets, even if these are not always up to date and fully accurate. As for 0302 TF, this one was sold to Mario Camellini in Modena (per factory paperwork). Marcel Massini
Dear Marcel : I called « Farina spyder » the one seen with no number in June 1953 at Monza and Farina at wheel. The one later raced by Bonomi. If it was not 0302TF, let’s say it was 0306TF... how to be sure ?
Monza 29 June 1953. Race number 14. No Farina in sight........... Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
Beautiful pic !! See my post #795 : Farina is at wheel. I called this Vignale spyder « Farina spyder » to associate it with a driver. If you prefer, you can called it « Bonomi spyder ».
The #20 car at Casablanca December 1953. Villoresi and Ascari behind. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I did some Photoshop tinkering with your #20 at Casablanca, trying to bring out details. Comparing that with the photo I posted of the 500 Mondial Picard raced at Agadir two months later, it looks to me as though the louvers (?) on the sides are much closer to the wheel opening on the #20 car, and it may be my imagination, but the rear view mirror on the #20 car looks to be much further off to the driver's left. And for my two cents, #20 looks like a Vignale body with a Scaglietti nose. Two cars? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Yes, exactly. The number #20 looks like more or less to a modified (by whom ?) Vignale spyder but I’m still convinced it’s the same car later rebodied by Scaglietti (#26 at 1954 Agadir, #523 at 1954 Mille Miglia, etc).
Modena Aerautodromo 3 April 1954. Note five vertical slots in front fenders. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
First thank you for all your researches and investigations! Also, and sorry for being « new » in this subject, may I ask you to tell more about this triple restamp? Thanks, Victor
Just have a look in this thread... https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/0302-found-in-venezuela.267651/page-5
This same Ferrari was used in practice for the XXII Mille Miglia, 30 April 1955, on race #629, by Gilberto Cornacchia, who, prior to the race, crashed into #0104 E of Alborelli (225 Export Touring Barchetta). Subsquently neither of these two drivers participated in the 1955 Mille Miglia. Both cars had Scuderia della Guastalla stickers on the fenders. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
Yes, possibly. The only clue we can identify are the bonnet catches. If no other car had this arrangement of catches then the possible becomes more likely.
Sorry for the delay in my reply. Getting ready for Christmas here. Marcel's pictures show the catches beautifully along with the two louvres to the rear of the bonnet (hood) cover. Both of these details appear to have survived until at least 1959. I agree that the louvres in the sides of the wings (fenders) changed after Casablanca, but then the originals did not look very efficient. This is another feature that survived to 1959. Incidentally I don't have any photos after that year. Happy Christmas to everyone.
The early 4-cylinder engines were easily damaged and even destroyed. As a result the cars were apart all the time. Normal development. I think they found out about the redline the hard way. What use for a serial number after the engine carrying that number ceased to exist? Trash the build sheet, put in another engine, stamp another number and so on. Impossible to sort it all out now, we can only follow the cars as long as they look about the same.
Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login 28 December 1953, Genoa, Italy Shipping of the cars (Ferrari and Maserati) entered in II Gran Premio de la Republica Argentina and in the 1000 km of Buenos Aires which will be held on January 1954. Two 375 MM PF spyders, one in Argentinian colours for José-Maria Ibanez, the second for the Scuderia Ferrari (future winner), two 625 TF Vignale spyders for Roberto Bonomi and Luis Milan and the 375 F1 Scaglietti spyder for Louis Rosier + a bunch of monoposti. Pictures from Archivio Storico Publifoto. https://www.publifoto.net/rps/det.php?art_id=1237&ord=iD&page=1&RCCrps=Ferrari&sogg=imbarco-ferrari-e-maserati
A couple minutes later, inside the Giulio Cesare. On 29 December 1953 eleven racing Ferraris and ten Maseratis were shipped by Andrea Merzarip S.p.A. on the vessel "SS Giulio Cesare" departing from Genova, Italy, to Buenos Aires, Argentina. On the 14th January 1954 these cars were imported to Buenos Aires, Argentina, several Ferraris in the name of Pasquale Cassani, a mechanic of the Scuderia Ferrari. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
FANTASTIC pic as usual ! Many thanks Marcel ! Now the identity of this blue-yellow 375 MM PF spyder gives me a problem. 0362AM or 0374AM ? Thanks in advance.
Many thanks to both of you for the link (many things to read during a rainy day!) and the sum up Victor
As is well known 0362 AM was renumbered into 0374 AM. Bill of Sale. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
