Last to date? Is this a reference to the rumor that another could be in the works? Is there truth to that rumor? I suppose technically the Speciale Aperta was the last production NA V8. Was there a one-off or a race car produced later? (That would seem like a technicality for the purpose of this discussion, though I'd still be interested to know.)
Glad to help you out with Ferrari model history. Special A came after. Unless you believe that they are the same car. Since this is a thread dedicated to value you might want to look up what the Special A is going for and how many Specials you need to trade in to get one.
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I think we would all acknowledge that the Aperta commands a premium, presumably because (a) it's rarer and (b) many buyers prefer the drop top. As for what model had the last NA V8, however, I think it's fair to simply say "Speciale" even if technically it was an Aperta that last rolled off the line. Call it a tie.
The last NA engine is from the Speciale series, not a particular model. The last car, fine, argue what you want, but the engines are the same and that’s that. Lol
You don't take facts very well. An F12tdf is not an F12Berlinetta. A Speciale is not a 458. A Speciale A is not a Speciale. Owners know the difference and so does the market of which this model thread is about.
Comparing an f12B to a TDF? And speciale to a SpecA? C’mon bro…I take facts fine. Engines are the same. Fact.
And what about the Sergio? Was the last one built after the SA? I don’t know, but if yes, that’s technically the last model. Or maybe there’s a one-off using the same “engine.” I don’t care which model came last, they use the last NA V8. That’s what really matters. The SA can be double the price, as the owner of the one I almost bought has his delivered on a truck to all of the car shows. I’d rather drive one.
How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin? Speciale is one of the all time greats. If someone covets the car he/she should purchase one as soon as he/she can financially accommodate doing so. Why? Because 1) you can never buy more time and every month that slips away won’t return, and thus experiences are lost forever and 2) over time it will be more expensive, simple fact (notwithstanding temporary market fluctuations). If he/she prefers a Pista, F12tdf, GTO, Porsche, yadda yadda yadda then by all means apply the exact same logic as above and get busy with that. It’s a big world and all forms of car infatuations can be easily accommodated without detracting from anyone else’s enjoyment.
Not sure what hairs we are splitting here….I’ve owned a TDF, Speciale and SA. As we all know, the SA and Speciale are the same engine and car other than the drop top and production numbers. So the Speciale “family” (coupe and Aperta) are the last of the NA V8, perhaps we can all agree on. As far as values, of course I paid more and sold for higher my SA. As mentioned before, I’ve had 2 coupes and decided to keep my second coupe over the SA because I enjoy driving my cars and did not appreciate the depreciation of the SA with miles, so I sold it. No regrets. Love and will drive and keep my coupe. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
3) Increasingly difficult to find nice low-mile examples that prev owners haven't driven the snot out of...
Not sure where Solid’s post went, but hard when you can’t back it up. Tell me the difference between the Speciale and SA engine. Please.
F12 TDF engine has many modifications and upgrades to a standard F12 engine thus, cannot truly be compared. Whereas, the Speciale and Speciale A have the same exact engine and powertrain. Essentially the same car besides added weight and a retractable top in the Aperta. Arguably, the better driving car is the coupe! The premium for the open top and scarcity is IMO a poor ROI.
Nobody is arguing the value comparison, but it’s the same power unit. Never had an issue with Solid, as we both love rosso Maranello, but he’s out of his element here. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Adding a datapoint: I'm currently in contract to buy a sub 1,000 mile specimen for $430k usd. Reason for low price I feel has to do with the market it's in I plan on driving the **** out of it and racking up the miles Will post photos when it comes out of inspection and it's mine
The S&P 500 is up 100% since then. So buy a Scud or Pista if you want and use the leftover to get an Inconel exhaust, or fire your financial advisor and buy the S&P 500 in a low cost Vanguard account.
Here are carpoops’ photos post-inspection that he was kind enough to share. Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
