Reality Check, what did you pay for engine rebuild?

Doing a reality check on costs here.

360 or 430 (as we know both motors are so similar), what have you paid for a standard rebuild of an engine, from dropping the car off to picking it up and driving it away?

Standard rebuild: remove engine, tear down, new valve guides, rings seals etc.

Then have any of you gone the next set and replaced liners/pistons/rings? If so, what did it cost you?

 

Probably not the way to go. A replacement from the Ferrari "recycle-ers" with a known rep. would probably be the most feasible option. Parts alone would probably be crazy $$ for a rebuild.

 

I wouldn't hazard a guess at cost but certainly would be expensive.
But 360 and 430 engines are very different. 360 is the final version of the old Dino V8. The 430 was a development of a Maserati V8.

 

FWIW... these engines in the 360 and 430 are pretty stout. If simple maintenance is preformed and the car driven with respect (no red-lining until properly warmed up) there are guys here that have over 60K miles on their cars.

Head off known problems, replace parts with updated ones, and you should be fine. Now if the car has been abused... different story. And if you are considering buying a car with a sick engine-- my advice --keep looking.

 

Only in the exotic world would this not get dozens of laughing emojis.

But even well cared for cars need engine rebuilds occasionally. My thinking point is do you buy a crate engine or rebuild yours, saving some originality……IF one thinks a car might be a blue chip collectible one day. I don’t think that in this case but worth thinking about.

 

A used engine isn't too expensive for these cars compared to the Gallardos of the same era. These engines are pretty strong.

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Do it yourself, you will be surprised how much you learn if you take your time

 

If Mat Armstrong can do it with all his shenanigans, pretty much anybody can is my theory.

 

A rebuild would be fun. I assume that would drag out the downtime having to rely on so many components being available/in stock. I'll be rolling the dice on a used engine should mine spin a bearing or however these typically go. At that point I would consider rebuilding my old core.

 

Reality check: the 360 engine is AS GOOD as a Porsche motor of similar vintage... without the implosion of the IMS. Near 70k mile on mine with no issues and no rebuild.

If it dies... the advantage of a mass market car with 18k car built is readily available used motors. Replace the unit in the car with a used motor of less mileage crashed by an owner that thought they could drive the car they owned but couldn't and call it a day. Then rebuild the old motor if desired when its out of the car.

 

Interesting! I didn't realize the Maserati connection with the 430 V8. They really are significantly different compared to all the previous 355s, 348s, 328s, 308s.

I thought the engine modifications and chassis modifications seemed to skip a model. Thus the big difference between the 355 and 360 is the chassis. The big difference between the 355 and 348 was the engine. The big difference between the 348 and 328 is chassis (longitudinal vs. transverse).

 

I guess this isn’t such a common occurrence since nobody has stepped up with a price.

 

I think it went the other way. The engine block was produced by Ferrari via sand casting. Some other parts are shared, but the Maserati is a wet sump engine and the Ferrari is a dry sump. The Maserati uses a crossplane crank and the Ferrari uses a flat-plane crank.
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At 70K miles, I had the cylinders honed, new rings, rod bearings, main bearings, 5 angle valve job, shaved 11 mils off of the heads, new oil pump chain, new belts, hoses, etc. The car now has 111K miles on it and has been running perfectly and has crazy horsepower (because of the shaved heads). 12 grand.

 

Nice!

 

I know someone who had a 365 V12 engine rebuilt, took 2 years overall. .a lot of delay getting the parts

 

How about many over 100k and several over 200k....

 

How long ago did you have this work done? (40k miles since rebuild suggest some time ago?) and was the $12k the all in price? (engine out, rebuild and put back in?)

 

Most probable answer. If I needed an engine, as suggested earlier I would go the used engine route via a known reputable Recycler

 

And the rest. I often see 360s with 80k miles on the clock and no engine rebuild. They're good engines.

 

There is this thing called inflation. There is no way to do that for 12K now unless you provide the free labor yourself.

 

I think even at 20k, it sounds like the way to go and not use a used engine.

 

Agreed Corey. If you are planning to keep the car, I’d rather have piece of mind knowing engine is fresh and all its maintenance and service history! Even a 911 engine rebuild is 30k these days! I’d expect similar on one of these (assuming no carnage like broken case, etc.

 

Says the guy who had his 996 GT3's Mezger engine rebuilt to 4.0L from 3.6L Inspiring BTW...

 

Well, 3.9, but close enough! Crazy thing is that Even with high flow cams and different pistons and a host of other performance mods (and sub 3000lbs wet), the gt3 still can’t touch the outright grunt of the scud. But I still love it!

Anyway, I guess my point was that I don’t think a rebuild on a 360/430 would be all that worse than on a modern Porsche!