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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. Lcawley

    Lcawley Karting

    Nov 16, 2011
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    I think they can be both, I hope so.


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  2. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    You know the Pharaons tried to take it all away, but it doesn't seem to work...:D
     
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  3. sailfly

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    Dec 21, 2020
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    Most roadcar transaxles have the drive wheel output at the front and the gearset behind meaning it sticks out behind the wheelbase. LMP and F1 cars have the orientation reversed with the gearset in between the engine and drive output at the end of the gearbox, lengthening the wheelbase. Longer wheelbase is better for stability at higher speed corners and also gives better aero.
    They are supposedly developing a new V8. My guess is that its uses the same combustion chamber as the V6.
    Valkyrie is a lot slower than it was supposed to be due to them running out of money and RB leaving. 200kg over target, uses Porsche Cup2Rs instead of custom rubber so it can’t use all its downforce, underdeveloped chassis and aero setup.
    Ferrari should be able to beat this easily even if the potential of the concept is not as high as the Valkyrie
     
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  4. sailfly

    sailfly Karting

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    Thats surprising given all the EV companies touting the supposed torque vectoring benefits a quad or motor per wheel setup brings.
     
  5. iohead

    iohead Karting

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  6. willcrook

    willcrook F1 Rookie
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    I'm beginning to agree here,

    we don't have many lap time examples to work with on the valk but one we do is the Bahrain circuit:
    Valk: 2.01
    Ferrari FXX K Evo: 2.02

    the valk is only 1 second faster than the FXXK Evo (on slicks) over a 2 minute lap

    around Fiorano the road legal SF90XX is only 1.3 seconds slower than the FXXK Evo and previous jumps between Ferrari hypercars have been 2+ seconds faster around the track so i'd expect this to be the same

    obviously it's crude math but there's not much data to work with!

    it's a shame the Cup2 R's let the Valk down so much, it'll be interesting to see which tyres Ferrari have on their hypercar
     
  7. sailfly

    sailfly Karting

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  8. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
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    Cup 2s, not Rs.


    To be fair, if the road Valkyrie is quicker on road tyres, it is a major accomplishment. Then again, this is just another rumour.
     
  9. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Formula Junior

    Dec 7, 2012
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    Given that the Valkyrie on road tires beat an FXXK which is on slicks, that is very impressive. Especially since you take into account the fact that Newey and Red Bull have left the project.
     
  10. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula 3

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    Any further progress on date ?? Finali mondiali still fave or , as I believe , sooner in September …?
     
  11. Max623

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  12. snowboy458

    snowboy458 Karting

    Jan 31, 2013
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  13. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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  14. snowboy458

    snowboy458 Karting

    Jan 31, 2013
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    À la mercedes-amg one
     
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  15. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    While we are not happy Ferrari dropped the V12.
    When was the last time Ferrari dropped a true race breed Engine with multiple major victories into a road car...
    LeMans 24hr 2023 (499P)
    Nurburgring 24hr 2023 (296 GT3)
    Daytona 24hr 2024 (296 GT3)
     
  16. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Absolutely true.
     
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  17. Jonathan19

    Jonathan19 Formula 3

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  18. Spet00

    Spet00 Karting

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    It's very well wrapped up in the protective cover, but there appears to be some hefty ridges on both sides of the engine bay / on the back, visible through the cover - and then a somewhat weird-looking 296-esque exhaust as seen through the net-camouflage in the previous mules. Hope he'll publish the pictures or a video of it soon, I won't post his Patreon stuff on here out of respect
     
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  19. Varryx

    Varryx Rookie

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    Very appreciated
    Pictures, and video of course, are coming in a few days.
     
  20. Owen Edwards

    Owen Edwards Karting

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  21. ElChuecho

    ElChuecho Rookie

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    If this is the third and last prototype. The rims should be final?
    It makes no sense, since every ferrari halo had center locks (288, F40, F50, Enzo, Laferrari) to not have them on this car. One Laferrari mule if I remember correctly had only rear rims of the final car (center lock and the actual rim design). Several other mules had all 4rims that were similar to the final product in look but not quite there, but those too had center locks. Every mule this far of the up and coming F250 has bolts regardless of rim designs so far.
     
  22. Owen Edwards

    Owen Edwards Karting

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    The current test mule stage is the Avanserie, the preserie is scheduled for May which is the final stage of testing. The rims are not final and there’s many styles of wheels it’s been tested with so far. As far as center locks go I’m not sure, SF90XX and 812 comp don’t have them so maybe they’re not needed‍♂️


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  23. Owen Edwards

    Owen Edwards Karting

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    From what I’ve noticed from the pictures the edge of the front splitter reminds me a lot of the 675LT, there’s also 2 snorkel air ducts on the front end much like the p80c, there’s a small gap over the front fender near the mirror which appears to be a giant vent so maybe the fender will be closely shaped to the 296 GT3? there’s yellow tape over the black cloth on the hood indicating it will have 2 vents. The trailing edge of the rear end seems to be shaped much like the SF90XX with the exhaust mounted very similar to the SP3 Daytona.


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  24. ElChuecho

    ElChuecho Rookie

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    That could explain lack of wing on latest Varryx shots.
    As for center locks, it has always been a feature reserved for flagship?
    Doubt any special series had them before 812Comp, SF90XX.
     

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