Are you talking about trunk lid? I would assume lid to be pretty much like it is visible in the mule: a mixture of 812 and Roma. Most likely the lid has window in it, but still extends as low as in Roma for a better usability. For what purpose there would be large air intakes at the rear?
840hp, my apologies I forgot to correct that number in my 2nd post. As far as the transmission it would use it was in this article. I KNOW it's not a set-in-stone choice thats what Ferrari will use. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-ferrari-v12-flagship-gt-sings-the-song-of-its-people-features-roma-styling-221540.html
That Autoevolution article specifically mentions that it is likely to be the newer 8-speed unit. "The ultra-quick upshifts indicate a dual-clutch transmission, likely the Magna-supplied 8DCL900 of the Roma instead of the 7DCL750 of the 812 series. Both of them are transaxles, and the 900 in 8DCL900 stands for a maximum input capacity of 900 Nm. That'd be 664 pound-feet of torque. According to Magna, the max input speed is 10,000 rpm, which is more than adequate for a free-breathing V12 motor."
NO. This is the 167 MULOTIPO. Still the mulotipo. But there is something interesting! The definitive 167 extractor! Ahah!
Can confirm! Traveled with the wife for a week trip and was able to stuff two large bags and a few more things in the sides. Was venue shocked it fit, made me reevaluate wanting to buy a 4Lusso lol. Image Unavailable, Please Login
When I mentioned air intakes I didn't use the correct words because what I meant was exactly the opposite, air outtakes as we see on the 812 Competizione. The two large air outtakes at the rear of the 812 C and the slats of the fender just behind the rear wheel arches, generate downforce. They also relieve excess pressure within the wheel arches that would otherwise cause a few kilograms of lift at high speeds.
Image Unavailable, Please Login I don't know why these sketches from isot haven't been used for the latest attempts. I think (or maybe actually I hope) some of the features here shoud be accurate.
I am very excited about the new vehicle. I think shades like white or silver are more suitable for this simple design. Probably they will introduce a white car in Miami. And “Miami White“ or “Bianco Miami” would be the perfect reference to the Testarossa from Miami Vice...
The 812 C was revealed on May 5, 2021 and in April of that year the camouflaged mule that appears in the following pictures was seen around Maranello. As you can see from the side view comparison of the mule and the final car, the lines of the 812 C were already clearly visible on the mule. However, the same did not happen on the rear side where the camouflage used by the mule hided well the very charismatic rear side of the 812 C. In the case of the F167 which will be revealed May 2 , 2024, from the pictures side views of the mules doesn't become yet clear what the final lines of the car will be. Ferrari will certainly be using until next May new mules for the F167 like it did with the 812 C making it possible to visualize much better the lines of the final car. However, I predict that what happened with the rear of the 812 C mule will happen exactly again with the F167 mules. Most probably the rear end lines and aesthetic of the F167 will continue to be hidden until the day of its reveal. My guess is that the F167 will show an innovative rear end completely different from that of the 812 SF. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The rear most certainly had to change. Remember the reaction to it when the yellow spy photo slipped out. They tried to fix the tilted rear flap on the GTS but it still suffers from the same design.
So just to clarify a few things... F167 will be a flagship production car meaning it won't be limited like the 812 Competizione? Naturally Aspirated V12 with with roughly 20hp more than the 812 Comp? Cost expected to be under 600k? So I ask these questions to make sure I'm being objective as a buyer; bottom line is the (F167) 812 replacement will be more cheaper, more powerful V12 NA, more available than my 812 Comp A? How am I supposed to feel about that as an 812 Comp A owner. It feels like the F167 owners to be will feel like "hey I'm getting similar Ferrari car as an 812 Comp but at a better price". Yes you can say the driving experience will be different between the 812 Comp and the F167 but like I previous mention I'm trying to look at it from an objective point of view. I would love everyone's feedback on this point of view. * side note I have no intention of parting ways of my 812 Comp
No different from previous iterations. For example 599GTO 680ps F12 740ps. F12 TDF 780ps 812SF 800ps. 812 Comp 830ps F167 850ps ?
At this point, the delta horsepower is immaterial. The only thing that strings people along at this high level of game is its perceived exclusivity, just like much in the luxury world. No more no less. 400 horse power can easily land us in jail on the street. 800 hp vs 825hp, no difference.
Yes as much if not more hp but the car will be less highly strung ie softer suspension and transmission settings and heavier than the 812C so it won’t beat it around the track at Maranello(it might come close to it )The F167 will be a street focused GT not a track day GT. When the 812 came out many who drove it preferred the TdF as it was and is more edgy and exciting to drive. It will be the same with the F167 and the 812C. The specials are, well , special… Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I think John Owen provided a clear answer: All end-of-series limited edition cars were surpassed in theory by the following model (although with softer settings). it did not affect their values: A F12 tdf is still doing pretty well compared to a standard 812. Nothing new here. Since you secured a compA allocation, you can't be new to the game so I am sure you knew it already. [emoji4]
Nice sketches, guys. Interestingly, you both show rounded front fender humps—inspired by Vision GT concept—but a more tapering jump at the back, different than the front and the concept. I expect the rear hump will be similar to the front—and looking like it’s sitting on the shelf created above the horizontal side crease. The hump itself will likely have a crease at its peak, in the tradition of the 330 P4, as an example. Based on the above, I think what I showed some time ago will be pretty accurate for the rear quarter. The lower rear—partially exposed on prototypes and on Roma mulotipo—shouldn’t be far off either. The rest—taillights wrapping around maybe, exhaust tips, side crease raised and front fender—needs to be re-imagined, for sure. Image Unavailable, Please Login
