i'd probably define fast as in terms of what's commonly marketed as fast - lap times and drag racing times (in the era of youtube drag racing is extremely important as these videos get millions of views and younger people form an opinion of a brand partly based on this imo) I don't think we're at the point where motorbikes got to for quite awhile but who knows
Yes we agree. Ferrari however has a much finer needle to thread as its core customer is different from Porsche ( let’s face it- Porsche has sold and sells 911 variants ad nauseam where even the Panamera, SUVs, and 718s look like 911s to a large extent) where Ferrari customers find the engine, aesthetics and individuality of the car are more important. Change for Ferrari involves more risk but potentially more reward. I hope they can pull it off… Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
https://www.driving.co.uk/news/business/apple-designer-jony-ive-electric-ferrari/ https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/ex-apple-design-chief-jony-ive-join-hands-with-ferrari-to-develop-an-electric-car.php https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/ferrari-recruit-former-apple-designers-to-bring-the-prancing-horse-into-the-electric-future-132217/
I love the fact that the Taycan Turbo GT is out now. It's a thousand horsepower and costs around EUR 250k with Weisach Package. Now basically the same stuff from Ferrari I would expect to cost around 100k more (and we all would buy it), but no way that Ferrari launches a car for 350k. So let's say the base will be 420k and with steering wheel and rims it costs 500k... for us to spend that much on an electric car will mean that horsepower and track performance will need to be way above the Turbo GT. And that's what I am looking forward to!
Wouldn’t that overshadow the F250 which is expected to have those kinds of power levels. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It's going to be heavy the (EV) so the only selling point is power. Who is going to pay a Premium for a EV Ferrari. That is not 1500 - 2000hp? Sadly EV seem to be judged on power. Ferrari already have alot of competition in the EV market. So they need power and then something special to define their place. Their brand will only take them so far. As above Ferrari at this point are not even designing the car.
Exotic EVs in that power range are priced well over $1m and have extremely tiny production runs...if Ferrari prices their EV like an Icona expect it to have similar result (tiny production numbers). Think Rimac and Evija and brands that Rimac builds their EV for them.... It makes a lot more sense for the Ferrari EV to be an SUV, that way it will have actual range and a much wider possible audience at a much lower price point...
All ready confirmed its not an SUV. Can't see Ferrari making something like a Rimac (specially with an apple team designing it) fingers cross but if not done right its a train wreak Ferrari should have got in to low run exotic's 10 plus years ago regardless of powertrain. can't see them doing it now either.
We'll see, but, is there a mule out there? Reveal next year (18 months)? Production, when? Revealing a car before it is even at the mule stage is new idea for Ferrari...
As its not being designed by Ferrari a mule could be tested anywhere looking like almost anything at this point. Yeah about 12 months till Launch. Would guess given the above it will be a totally new model not an electrified version of a current model
The EV mule spotted masquerading as a Chevy: Image Unavailable, Please Login Expected MSRP including shields: $500K Apple CarPlay included but Android users must pony up $6500 Spider version with folding hardtop additional $150K Racing seats- if you have to ask… If the above sounds like putting lipstick on a pig, it is. It’s a fast squealer, no doubt, but an overweight squealer nonetheless. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
lmao love it. We do know the final version will basically look like an apple product but red with a Ferrari badge. I do think that mule is a little small tho
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/ferrari-ceo-promises-2025s-ev-will-stir-emotions-but-says-brand-will-never-abandon-ice/
If it has fake sounds - any sound amplification - it should have an off switch. An EV pretending to be an ICE is pure silliness IMO. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Except that neither GT3 nor 296 are race cars, so on track, driven by gentlemen drivers, they will not make 20 consecutive laps (which, depending on the track, would last from 30 mn to almost 1 hour). So the 296 will be faster than the GT3, and by some margin (depending on the track, a GT3 already struggles to keep pace with a 488, not to mention a Pista - assuming similarly skilled drivers).
Im going to dispute you there. Ive seen GT3s run hard for two days in open track no problem. By hard I mean sub 2 mins at the Glen in practiced hands. There is probably a broad definition of gentlemen drivers. My term is some really rich guy enjoying a Walter mitty fantasy, in which case the more powerful car will be in front as they drag race down straights and overbake for corners. That can apply to many Gt3 drivers too, hell most GT3s and GT4rs seem to be ordered by road driving poseurs who then flip out of the over optioned car, same as ferrai. The difference is if you go to any good open track event, ie abit beyond DE but not racing, the Gt3 can and does seta furious pace, and last all day for days as its designed to do. Ive yet to see nay street driven exotic do that, and the few that show upo run a few excetiobaly fats laps before A fading, and B as reported by their owners garnering huge bills atr the dealer to keep warranty etc. Thats very differernt to a Gt3. If i were running 3 laps, probably turbo porche is much quicker. 25 lap's 5x per day at pace different pecking order, one where momentum regardless of power is a huge factor. there are imo very vey few cars that can run hard for a day on track out the box. A pista is an inetrestign proposition, I guess with soem brake mods it might be bale to do it, but then ferrai owners want to keep them pristing and below 5 k miles for investment, which sadly says what its all about. Would be nice if Ferrari built areal Gt3 beater, the 186 ie a lightened 296 without electrics. It would be slower 0-60 than a 296 and too hard for most, but imo a real ferrai in etrms of what the brand once stood for and lineage. BVack to the op. As 99% of ferrais are not driven in anger and as the very few that are, are driven at a tame de event by gentlemen drivers I dont see why an electric Ferrari would not succeed well. it will be faster than any other ferrari on magazine paper metrics including 1 lap of nurbering, far easier to keep and use etc. Now its quite possible that ferrai is like a Rolex, so that ice sound despite the performance deficit is the critical part of the equation. Im not so sure. Perhaos the 296 has it right you get the ice sound with electric performance. Imo Ferrari will make electrics, they have to due to legislation anyway, theyll be sucessful, and in the Ice space they'll make a classic line, maybe even bring back the stick. the classic line will be all about experience and emotion. Theyre selling heritage and image, that's why theyre already sticking with the NA v12, just one moroe step to bringing back a stick. Who knows we might even get round dials. Meanwhile cars like the Roma and some Me car to compete with the tesla roadster, yeah no reason not to be electric. The next generation of batteries, 2 years out will give an advertised 30% improvement in energy density, Ductai sells way more classic monster style bikes than superbikes. there is room for classic ice and electrics.
Two patent that seem to be linked to the EV. “Ferrari Will Make Electric Supercars Sound Good Without Speakers” https://carbuzz.com/ferrari-electric-patent-axle-aerodynamic-noise/ “Ferrari's New Torque-Vectoring Steering Wheel Will Turn You Into A Driving God” https://carbuzz.com/ferrari-customizable-racing-steering-wheel-patent/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk