EAG, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

On a Motronic clutch pedal sensor does a bunch of other things than just prevent starting it. It controls lots of driveability functions such as rpm flare on gearshifts, torque on rollout etc. Not having it is a shortcut not worth taking

 

How does the clutch switch prevent rev matching?

 

It is just amazing to see how all the dubious defenders of this whole debacle are simply making Art looks way worse and effectively inviting more criticism to him. What is even more amusing is how much one is not willing to be open minded to accept that fact that there are more than one knows and silence is golden often.

 

Why wont anyone describe the relationship between the clutch switch and everything else?

What does the clutch switch do other than prevent a false start?

 

Still waiting for you to defend the unilateral $5,000 charge threatened if I spoke out against what was going on with EAG and holding my car hostage, further threatening to leave it in pieces.

 

The reason is the pretext of your questioning lies in your defense of Art. It is not a genuine question for your knowledge gain. Use search button or Google for that purpose. Did you see the title of this thread?

 

I have no idea who or what that was!
I saw some pics of the car you sent them and that was it.

 

Kent is saying my cars were fraudulently converted- he asked for pics which i supplied and i cld care less if my cars had clutch switches to begin with. I have spoken to trev numerous times about the scud’s programming and the car has worked great. Just trying to understand.

 

Maybe you're trying to save some reputation & value of the EAG converted Scud??? Is that why you're putting on the EAG defense???....speaking of the manual scud.....Does the Manettino & the Ediff function with Trev's programing?

 

Yes it works. How does any of thjs impact my car? My car was converted 14k miles ago with oem parts and i have a fully working manettino.


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I just told you a few examples what it does. Its not a drastic difference but it is noticeable when you know what to look for.

Whether its worth it is a subjective question.

 

Seems there is differing responses from people who had their cars converted to manual related to what functions work/exist or not:
1) Manettino no longer works. If it does not, what is the default setting?
2) E-diff disabled.
3) No clutch pedal sensor.
4) Rev limiter not programmed same as factory oem.

Perhaps it is time to have 360trev answer some of these questions, as he provided the software for these conversions and would know what was available or not, and what the pluses and minuses of each are.

 

i sent him a message a while ago.

 

And I asked you privately NOT to drag Trev into this, but you did anyway because you think Trev is going to make excuses for what Art represented. No one contracted with Trev, they contracted with Art and Art is responsible for what he represented to the end user, NOT Trev. Trev is NOT responsible for my e-diff being disabled, he is NOT responsible for there being no clutch switch and he is NOT responsible for the broken promises.

Trev cannot be responsible for Art's work or what he promised customers and frankly I find it a bit offensive you are trying to drag him into the hole you are digging yourself into.

 

I 100% contracted with trev, thank you.

 

1) I have no idea what the default is because the e-diff was permanently crippled.
2)Same as 1
3) no clutch switch
4) Rev limiter cannot be programmed as factory without #3

 

I did not and I doubt many others did either. I contracted with Art and Art is whom this thread is about, not Trev. Completely unethical in my opinion to bring him up. Art was the GC, he is responsible.

 

Asking the expert is unethical? Interesting perspective.

 

I feel you're trying to shift the blame for EAG's failures onto a subcontractor. The subcontractor has always been honest on what his software will do. Art simply misrepresented the work and that isn't something Trev is responsible for, no matter how much you wish it so.

 

OMG! I met art and trev at the same time. Covid was happening and conversions caught my eye. I wld have died for a gated scud. Im a huge trev fan, in fact much of my satisfaction with EAG has been having trev involved and helping get the scud to where it is. Trev is the most informed person i know when it comes to the 2 things you have accused my scud of being deficient in! So make no mistake about it, i reference trev because he is who i bet on when i agreed to buy a non manettino working scud!!

 

Well, we are making some progress here . You're now admitting your Scud has a crippled e-diff as a result of the conversion and that you agreed to that. I did not.

From my contract with Art:

 

Mmmh. It was well known to the entire world that the scud manettino was not working went it went to the auction. I didnt even know the car existed at that point. When i found out about the conversion, i contacted trev to see if he thought it cld be sorted, he said yes, i bought the car and now it works. How is any of this difficult to understand?

 

I don't follow your personal car buying history. I asked you privately if the car was salvaged because the fit and finish looked Fk'd up to me. You claim it wasn't. If you chose to buy a fk'd up Scud that had a major component in non working condition, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything we're discussing here. My F430 was previously owned by Eddie Smith Jr. It was in pristine condition. Still looked and smelled brand new. I paid a premium for it at an authorized Ferrari dealership.

You're here defending Art. I was promised a car that met or exceeded factory installation and that is NOT what I received.

 

You just keeping going on and on about nothing. I have owned 90 cars in the past 20 years. I know how to buy a car. I had the car inspected before i bought it. No issues. I bought it knowing the manettino didnt work and trev and art got it sorted. You asked the questions which i have answered. The title of the thread is the good the bad and the ugly. Clearly based on your omnipotence, the good is not welcomed here and everyone must have the same conclusion as you, right? You are clearly all knowing on all things, including my scud which i dont think you have driven?

 

Bought 90 cars and has no idea what a rev limiter does. Seems legit. . So you bought a Fk'd up Scud and Art saved your a$$ and that explains why you're loyalty is unwavering. Do I have that right? Glad we're learning more and more about what is behind all your jock riding.