Perhaps not quite a perfect analogy. Computer tech had to evolve alongside their reason for existence as more and more use cases were imagined. If the internet didn't exist, the IBM might still be perfectly serviceable. Cars on the other hand have a specific purpose. New tasks and abilities may be created for them, but the core part of their existence will always be surface conveyance. If however flying cars as imagined in the "Bladerunner" or some other use become reality, then the current tech will most certainly become obsolete and worthless.
He went on a crazy rampage. It was full of profanity and was 10-15 crazy text. I think it was just some 13 year old kid that took pix of his dad’s car.
It is 5 1/4 inch, 3.5 were the hard "floppy" with higher density - both are still obtainable in new form through small outlets. I have a 8088xt and a 8086 with a 32mb rll drive that boot up flawlessly [ with a few bad sectors.). Also there are "large" communities of abandonware and BBS (via telnet now) that support 80s legacy+ technology flawlessly. You just have to know where to look much like legacy anything including automobiles.
The forum filtered out all of the profanity but it was craziness. It was one or two sentences per post like he has done in the past. On some post he was replying/arguing with himself. The jest was we are all losers, we can do certain things to him (use your imagination), he doesn’t care if he is banned, we are losers, go f ourselves, etc. It was just like he has done in the past. Throwing a temper tantrum or got into his dad’s alcohol.
Just some random thoughts from the peanut gallery When the 599 came out everyone said- ohhhh, just wait, those fancy, exotic shocks will fail (the magnaride ones), and who will work on them, the car will be a paperweight in the future. Well, it’s almost 20 years later and….. is anyone worried about the shocks? They are highly computerized. The screens in the 599 do fail (due to heat primarily)- yet there are people out there who can rebuild them/ you can also pay for new ones. And this applies to any Ferrari you care to discuss. Why? Whats the difference between a Ferrari and the discussed above iPods, PCs, whatever’s…. And thats because those devices are truly disposable electronics. And a Ferrari is still a Ferrari. Sorry for the marketing doublespeak but it really is the case. As long as people ascribe a value to Ferraris, there will be enough good reason for the factory and then secondary interests to support the model. Can it be expensive to fix? Sure. But it’s not quite the right question to ask. The right question to ask is- is it worth it to fix. For example, with a 15 year old iPod- it’s probably worth next to nothing- is it worth $500 to repair the battery? Clearly not. But with a 355, is it worth a few thousand dollars to replace dead ECUs or any other part? Yes it is. Even when the values were lower. So the answer to this- as with so much in the car world- is residual values. And the question to ask is what drives residual values. Fundamentally, it’s that enough people really love something that they place a value on it that is over and above the intrinsic value of the physical parts and any IP associated with their integration. I think all these cars will have more than sufficient support in the future. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
Was at the factory on Friday… saw the V6/v8 production line and they also let me see them hand building the SP3s … they are really churning out the 296 and Roma Spyders now which won’t help resale ..… and people speccing some wild colours - 296 in McLaren Papaya Orange… .. Purosangue in Verde Kers and Porsche Riviera Blue and Gold Roma Spyder! … but paint quality on some supposedly finished cars was terrible
I was surprised (and pleased) there were no Grigio Titanio 296 on the line … but plenty in resale Rosso Corsa!
Friend was interested in a used 296 GTS and asked for my help. This thread is about values so here is what I learned about GTS's: They are selling for 100k+ over depending on all the usual factors. There aren't many for sale (I only found 5). There are others for sale, not on dealers sites. For example, I found a blue launch car not listed anywhere. Most of these cars have mid $400s MSRP. Comps: https://preowned.ferrari.com/en-US/r/north-america/used-ferrari/usa/296-gts/rfcm https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ferrari-296-GTS-d3336 Also, if you aspire to the 296 GT3 (or whatever they call it) remember these new guidelines: 1) Preference is given to those who ordered a 296 GTB/ GTS new. Same as the SF90 with the XX version. 2) You must have a 296 IN your garage. No pre-selling. Note: I had a friend who got an order spot (and specced) a SF90 XX. He was an original owner of a SF90. Order for the XX was accepted. He sold his SF90 and Ferrari cancelled his order for the XX.
You mean speciale version? There’s a GT3 race car you can buy now that looks like great fun but is track only. these are the guidelines I was told for the “special” version too and I will be abiding as I really want one.
30 years from now the future of the 286 may be in scrapping the electric's, by analogy same way Bruce canepa has simplified the 959..
30 years from now, I'll be dead. So, for me, it's largely irrelevant what the 296 will be in 30 years.
All that being said my 246 is still going strong 50+ years on and largely unrestored… it even has the original Dinoplex ignition system which was (unnecessarily complicated) even in it time (like a 296 dash?) and now prob 2 people alive that can service it… however Ferrari did provide a back up even then.. u could simply unplug the Dinoplex and rely on simple points ignition…. And nowadays many owners replace the Dinoplex with a modern simpler electronic ignition housed in the same box in the boot which probably delivers superior performance… so ultimately there could always be solutions (or work around) especially given the volume of cars Ferrari is now building Image Unavailable, Please Login
the dealers all knew this, and told buyers they could not sell their SF's while waiting for an XX. Either he didn't listen or his dealer was very neglectful in not passing this on.
In Europe, there's still a premium for the GTS; but the GTB are now at about MSRP or below. I think GTS and GTB are just at different points of the price evolution because the GTS was introduced later. Not helping the GTB is probably also that some sell their GTB when receiving their GTS.
It’s such a bizarre world where you buy something from a company and they dictate what you can do with something that you previously bought. It’s pretty odd if you think about it. I’m going through a bizarre conversation right now with Pagani. They want $1 million deposit for a car that won’t be delivered for three years, and I can’t sell for two years after that unless I give them three times the profits if I sell at a premium. Makes me wonder if this whole thing is just a bubble. How can these companies get away with this?
