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Is the Roma a supercar?

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  1. techceo22

    techceo22 Rookie

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    i’ve seen articles and people on Reddit and other platforms where everybody is utterly confused about whether they think or believe that the Roma is a supercar. What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Tireman

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    Not even close
     
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  3. techceo22

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    Why?

    It has the 612hp, 0-60 in ~3.2, top speed of 199mph, sounds like one.

    Is it that all GT cars are non-supercars?
     
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  4. techceo22

    techceo22 Rookie

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    I should google what Ferrari considers the Roma.
     
  5. techceo22

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    Ferrari itself does not explicitly refer to the Roma as a "supercar" in its promotional materials or official descriptions. The Ferrari Roma is positioned as a grand touring car, with a design and specifications that emphasize comfort, luxury, and performance suitable for long drives. While Ferrari highlights the Roma's high-performance features, such as its turbo-charged V8 engine, the company focuses on the vehicle's elegance, style, and the driving experience it offers, rather than categorizing it directly as a supercar .

    However, it's worth noting that external reviews and automotive enthusiasts may occasionally describe the Roma or its variants in supercar terms due to its impressive performance capabilities, design, and brand lineage. This kind of classification can be subjective and varies based on individual perspectives on what constitutes a "supercar.
     
  6. neuro1

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    I dunno team, this is sort of a silly question. With 600+ HP, oceans of torque, etc the Roma certainly performs as well as any car that most would call a "supercar", and certainly smokes many Ferraris of yore. Is it not a supercar because it is a 2+2, or has adaptive cruise control, or doesn't have gashes for airflow, or doesn't require a second mortgage? I mean what is the difference between a model and a supermodel? The Roma is a sweet ass sports car that is painfully beautiful and drives like a dream. I don't really care what others think of it!
     
  7. RoyalPink

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    It's a Ferrari is all that matters to me.
     
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  8. senseiturtle

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    With 471hp,
    a 0-60 of 4.2
    An exotic marque with brand exclusivity.
    Six figure price tag.
    Limited production.
    A quarter mile of 12.3... of course it's a supercar.

    Oh wait.. thats the F40.
    The Roma meets or exceeds that in every metric.

    Just because it has 4 seats doesn't mean it isn't a handcrafted work of art.
     
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  9. The Roma is not a supercar.

    It is a super car.
     
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  10. senseiturtle

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    I have some better ones for... "is that a supercar?" I would present these as better points over a discussion about a Ferrari.

    Shelby GT500
    Fast. Semi rare. Special, maybe? But its a suped-up version of a rental car. Probably not a supercar.

    Corvette Z06
    With a ZR1, I would say probably yes. It's very special, and a "remake" with all the carbon fiber bits... but its also a suped up version of a very standard sports car icon. The Z06 blurs the line even more.

    Porsche 911
    Turbo S - hell yeah. Base carrera? Maybe? Certainly an iconic, aspirational brand. Decently quick among all models and flatly amazing in the Turbos.
     
  11. SMSD

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    Why on earth would you care?
     
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  12. SAT4RE

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    It's an AwesomeCar, and that's what matters to those who are fortunate enough to own one.
     
  13. Tireman

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    all F cars are great but if I understand the ?? the Roma would clarify as a category below … still it’s a Ferrari which makes it Special if not super
     
  14. Rafal'sGTO

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    I own and manage PHXDriven, a supercar club out of Arizona. We have a Roma in our club and we consider it a supercar.
     
  15. williamD

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    The what is and isn't a supercar has to be one of the most hotly disputed topics in the motoring world.
    I've always believed it's based on 3 factors:
    Performance, Price, Exclusivity (rarity).

    For me personally a 911 Turbo S is not a supercar as it really only ticks one of those boxes. I would argue that a GT3RS is more of a supercar as it's far more rare and ticks the other boxes.

    Ofc you then have to create a 2nd category - Classic Supercars. A car that on release was unquestionably a supercar although now slow by modern standards - phew F40...

    So can a GT (Roma) be a Supercar? Isn't the 812 a GT - would anyone argue that's not a supercar?

    I believe Ferrari considers it their entry level car, like the Porto and Cali before it. I have a Cali T and its most definitely not a supercar and nor was imo the Porto.

    Personally i'm in the it's a super looking car not a supercar. Funnigly enough I really wasn't a fan of the shape (way too AM for me) but then I watched the movie Argylle last night and there was a yellow Roma and it looked badass.
     
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  17. Doctor Mark

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    No, but does it matter? Looks and performance do not put it in that category.
     
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    In your books, is a C8 Corvette a supercar?
     
  19. Shark01

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    By the ever changing definition of a supercar, no.

    Nothing wrong with being a class leading sports car though.

    But trying to like it’s external styling is tough TBH
     
  20. Doctor Mark

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    No, the C8 is NOT a supercar and frankly who cares.
     
  21. Doctor Mark

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    I sense that is all an exercise by owners looking for an ego message.
    In my mind, the Roma is a nice GT car. Supercar to me is a LaFerrari, McLaren P1, or Porsche 918. These were cars that truly raised the bar. The Roma or C8 do not.
     
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  22. 2dinos

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    Gobs of horsepower, carbon brakes, sexy - sexy body! Is it only considered a supercar if a magazine says so?

    My Fiat X1/9 was a great car back in the day, but the 308 was a supercar! The 308 was a limited production, handmade, >200 horsepower, could easily exceed 100, factory leather, Koni's, 4 cams & 4 Webers, etc. etc. etc.

    What was the Roma question? :)
     
  23. senseiturtle

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    In my opinion, the only thing "wrong" with the Roma is how Ferrari dealerships and VIPs have been treating them. They're low level fodder, just a tool to get your "spend" up so you can eventually get the opportunity to buy a limited production piece. Plenty of people want Romas/Portos/Calis. But of course, this $200k car isn't going to get the attention from magazines, Miami clubbers, silicon Valley tech bros, or collectors that the $700k car would.

    It's a tremendous disservice to how awesome the Roma is, in and of itself.

    I do have a far flung, fantastical hope that the Roma might be more special than it appears. Rolex couldn't give away Paul Newman Daytonas in the late 60s. But now they're one of the most coveted pieces.
     
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  24. RoyalPink

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    Wish they'd do a Miami Vice series remake with Crockett and Tubbs driving a Roma in the show. Roma would be the perfect car.
     
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  25. LARRYH

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    Actually , LAKE FOREST FERRARI includes the ROMA as a supercar and listed what amounts to all other current production ferraris as supercars then has a level above it called hyper cars …
    So apparently They do consider it as one not sure i would but
     

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