812 Replacement Rumors

1. This IS very likely the last regular production V12 sports car from Ferrari. Although they are unlikely to come out and say this. Reliable sources here have confirmed this is really it so be forewarned.

2. I believe most did TM on GTS because it was the first series convertible V12 in decades and that made it special.

 

@ohno I really like your rendering - thank you for all the effort - great work. I‘m wondering about the Ferrari SP51, that car might be very interesting not only because it‘s a one off, it’s the latest designed V12 Gran Tourismo Ferrari and there is some more similarity.
The SP51 wasn‘t taken in consideration too much in this thread. Did the design of the SP51 inspire you?

 

I am glad I didn't listen to any warnings. I love my GTS and hope to get the F167 as well. You cant buy time (no matter how much $$ you have) and the time spent with all these cars and the memories are way more important than some nonsense about "last of" and the ridiculous "depreciation" discussion that will inevitably start...

 

Ohno presented us here with a drawing of the F167 that shows his talent and ability to interpret the lines that are hidden beneath the camouflage of the various mules.
By superimposing Ohno's drawing on one of the last mules that is not yet covered with panels, what we obtain is what the pictures below document.
Congratulations Ohno, the proportions of your drawing and the lines match practically perfectly with those of the mule. This F167 with very clean lines designed by Ohno, I would buy it without any hesitation as it fully corresponds to what IMO a Ferrari GT V12 should be.


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And I thought it was rabies!


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I hope it does not look like this as it’s almost a clone of the last gen Corvette silhouette!
Granted there is only so much can be done to a front engine cars proportions but I’ve had multiple people ask me how I liked my Corvette aka as a $500K Ferrari GTS.


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You don't want people to guess what the next car looks like? Come up with better camouflaged mules.

 

Renderings also reflect descriptive intel from knowledgeable members, not just camouflaged mule interpretations.

 

Amazing stuff people!


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Agreed. Kinda boring. My similar issue with the 550/575 was too conservative = bland = boring.



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There will be distinctive contour lines, venting and other idiosyncratic elements to separate the car from Jaguar/Aston/Vette styling, yet those elements are not able to be accurately devined or rendered ahead of the actual reveal. I think Ohno has likely nailed the reported Daytona esque swage line running along side, as well as the reported blending of front and rear lights into this character line. Other details we will just have to wait for the reveal. Those who have seen the car have said it’s epic and that it will be universally loved.

 

Although I'm not very familiar with GT Corvettes, from what I know, it seems to me that the lines of all of them are different from those of V12 GT Ferraris. Even if the lines of the F167 are the same as those designed by Ohno, the visual appearance of the car in the flesh will surely look different from the drawing. One thing I'm certain that it will never look like a Corvette.

 

I would direct these people to a local optometrist.

 

That’s why the 812 needs a GIANT painted shield on the front fender … make sure nobody mistakes it for a ‘plumber’s car.’

 

It is the rake of the windshield that perhaps more steep and the front lowered more, electronically controlled 3 round holes up front. Takes us back in a different direction if it indeed has the hips suggested.

I was rather excited when the camo looked like the C4 and not the GTB/4 but alas ‘twas panels.

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If the F167 needs a GIANT painted shield to not look like an older Vette, we are in deep poop…


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I really don’t care if someone doesn’t realize it is a Ferrari. A couple of (non car people) have commented they really like the color of my “vette”(812SF). No need to correct. I enjoy it for what it is!

The 167 will be amazing.


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Nobody will be mistaking the F167 for a Vette. Especially from the rear.

 

That would be a fools errand.

Without very generous government subsidies, hydrogen for passenger vehicle transport does not exist:

from:
https://cleantechnica.com/2024/02/08/hydrogen-refueling-station-closures-in-multiple-countries-more-painful-news-for-hydrogen-proponents/

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below from this link:
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/exclusive-hydrogen-vehicle-registrations-are-flatlining-across-most-of-europe-with-hundreds-more-filling-stations-on-the-way/2-1-1592413

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Hydrogen is economically non-viable, it cannot stand on its own (for passenger car transport). Nearly all the HRS only exist with the benevolence of government force, remove that and it's all a mirage.

 

Remember the Hindenburg!
Most people don’t for good reason- hydrogen was a bad idea then and is marginally better now. If the world was powered by a near infinite clean source(nuclear anyone?) then hydrogen fuel might be viable- but then EVs will be cheaper still. Who knows perhaps some smart chap will come up with an induction charger similar to how cell phones are charged wirelessly. Simply park and go or even better build them into roadways so you charge while going. Of course the magnetic fields from these things will be responsible for everyone’s cancer- I’m sure the trial lawyers will preemptively create a class action lawsuit…and so it goes.


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And battery is any better? One thing we should know, logic is no arbiter of government policy

 

My salesman told me he put me on their list for one of the first cars. Should be quite a thing.

 

Will be the first front engine production Ferrari to lap Fiorano faster than the LaFerrari. You heard it here first.

 

Not really hard and really a given, when the Comp was only 0:00.30 shower than the LaFerrari

Ferrari LaFerrari 1:19.70
Ferrari 812 Competizione 1:20.00