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  1. Glenn Quagmire

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    I stand corrected…it sold for $107K.
     
  2. Octonion

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    Clutch replacement at 3700 miles, multiple engine problem history and low compression on #5 and #6 before the last engine out service possibly dissuaded many bidders. I would say it sold well for its history.
     
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  3. johnk...

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    $114,500 with BAT fee.

    Regardless of what the seller said the car showed many signs (other than paint depth readings) that it had been painted. For example, the black belt line was originally painted on and doesn't wrap around into the wheel well.

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    Particularly noticeable in fig 35. And FWIW, I'm the original owner of my car. So it's factory correct.

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    Also, the rivets holding the rear lower vents should be black.

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    And no paint chips behind the rear tires on a car with 41k miles?

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    Still a nice car and sold well, but?????
     
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  4. Glenn Quagmire

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    Good observations!
     
  5. gdl203

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    #480 gdl203, Mar 29, 2024
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    $112,350 actually with 5% buyer's fee

    Pretty sure anyone bidding on that car understood that it had been repainted and had PPF on the nose section. It was discussed at length and the paint readings were there to confirm it.
     
  6. johnk...

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    My error on the fee. It's still 5% but they raised the cap to $7500 from $5000.

    And rereading the seller comments I see that he did say it was an older repaint. Some how my old eyes miss read that. I have no problems with repaints as they are typically better than the factory paint on these cars. I was just under the impression it was stated otherwise. Oh well, I seem to be missing a few things these days. Cognitive abilities are fading. :(

    Thanks for the correction.
     
  7. gdl203

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    No problem - those are valuable observations and I'm impressed you picked all that up from the photos !

    Just wanted to point out that I believe that the price paid reflected the bidders' understanding that the car had a repaint + PPF. BaT comments move really fast and they accumulate, so it's easy to miss something!

    And I agree that for a lot of buyers who don't care about original paint, a well executed repaint is actually incremental to the value they're willing to pay, not a detriment. A lot of money was spent on this car, and I do think that it gives some peace of mind to bidders. 18 months ago, it probably would have gone above 115-120 with all these receipts
     
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  8. Schulz308

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    Strong money for a GTS w over 40K miles. Glad the market appreciates the 308
     
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  9. MS250

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  10. Plutonium

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    V12 308 soon????
    See video at ~10 minutes

     
  11. bitsobrits

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    Where is "over here"? In the US there are a number of RHD in the Brit car community. I have 2 in my garage. Driving RHD on the fairly rural roads where I live is not a problem. Much more fraught when I head into the city.
     
  12. MS250

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    Canada / Ontario - the last RHD car I saw was decades ago , and was a Rolls Royce from the 1950s , if I recall, I think it was used as a wedding limo. Seeing a RHD car here is like finding a dodo bird
     
  13. MFlanagan

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    In Illinois, we see postal delivery drivers with RHD vehicles, daily. For me, it's only my Lotus Elite, RHD. It's the only RHD I've got.
     
  14. Hannibal308

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    My glass dry sump car is RHD and I drive it everywhere around northern AZ. City and rural...
     
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  15. Newman

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    Aside from the disadvantages of driving a RHD car in North America, the 308 was never meant to be a RHD car. RHD 308's were originally designed as a LHD cars and when Ferrari made the right hand versions they left the central frame tube offset 4" to the right rather than fully go LHD and reworking the entire chassis. The driver is cramped when driving from the right side in a 308 and the dead pedal notched out of the console is less than adequate. I have such a hard time getting into them and fitting right, it really ruined the car in my opinion unless you're 5'5" and 150lbs.
     
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  16. Octonion

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    I see what you mean. Did not know this was the case.

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  17. Brian A

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    Wow! That is a really cool photo. I have never seen such clear documentation of the frame.

    Would love to see more photos from diffrerent positions to show the various aspects of the frame.

    (Looks like there is a lot of work to be done to turn the frame back into a car.)
     
  18. Octonion

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    There's a lot of them on this thread https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/308-chassis-frame.652742/
     
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  19. Newman

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    I currently have one down to almost that right now, the only difference being it has the roof beams and pillars. It's a solid 4" less room on the right and that's significant. The RHD cars used the same clutch cable on the left side but had a cross shaft above the steering rack to transfer the pedal motion from the right to the left side of the car. It really is a number of compromises to get it into that market and the biggest being what the driver has to live with.
     
  20. Newman

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    Thats a LHD frame just for reference. The noticeable difference being what looks like a bent horizontal beam where the steering column and instruments are on a car with a wheel on the left.
     
  21. Hannibal308

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    I have one of each, don't ask why, and you're right, the RHD car is narrower for the driver. Still, I like shifting with my left hand...it's more like flying a fighter, stick in the right and throttle under the left hand...
     
  22. rob

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