Which oil filters do you use on your Dino ?

Many decades ago, yes and it was all Fram oil filters. Many years ago they were the talk on many auto sites, not just Ferrari.

If you were asleep in a cave don't blame us if we cant be bothered with reproving that old story.
You can try to pretend it is still 1968 but it does not serve your customers interests very well.

 

Just to clear the air on Fram Filters, for many years up into the 1990s, Fram produced quality oil filters. Then, at that time, they made a business decision to lower the quality so they could also lower the prices and pursue the very large discount store market. This was the downfall of Fram in general. The "four digit" filters (2804, 2815, etc. and the "racing" filters) were always constructed to higher standards. However, they still do make some pretty good filters for Ferrari applications. So far, I have never found a comparable filter technically to the PH2815 for the single cam 250,275, and 330 motors that use one full flow and one bypass filter.

 

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I'm sorry to have been asleep in a cave by the shade tree when "many auto sites" (I only frequent this and one other dedicated to antique cars) and don't have time to stay current with everything talked on them, hence my relatively (?) simple question for which a simple reply with something like "Yes, plenty of documented evidence of XYZ filters having consistently caused major engine failures in vintage Ferraris does exist" would've been sufficient, especially if posted by someone like you, Dyke or Gary.
I didn't actually ask or expect to anyone to lay it all out for me here.

 

Just like in medicine this business changes. What and how we did things in 1968 no longer applies. You need to stay up or your customers suffer.

 

By the way, I did one time have an UFI oil filter fail internally and it damaged an engine. Unlike Fram, once I brought it to Ferraris attention they covered the cost of repair 100%. They not only covered cost of repair, they paid for a complete engine overhaul.

 

I once bought a used a Ford F150 that had a fresh oil change by the used dealer. Every morning when I started the engine it would knock for a few seconds. I never in my entire life had a Ford doing that. It had a Fram filter on it. I removed it and replaced it with a Motorcraft(ford) FL1A filter and it neved knocked again.
It reinforced my lack of trust in Fram.

 

I’m sorry to say I’m not old enough to have experience or direct knowledge what and how (automotive related ?) things were done in 1968 and while I appreciate your concerns over my clients best interest, I don’t believe my long avoidance of excessive(?) participation in “many auto sites… …to stay current” has caused much, if any suffering for them.

Glad to read you were able to prove and get it resolved with minimal expense to the car/engine owner.
I'm sure you’ve recounted details of this unfortunate experience previously, but would you mind sharing which type of vintage Ferrari engine did this occur with ?
Or was it perhaps a 206/246 Dino engine ?

While I’m sorry you had to endure such a traumatic experience, I fail to understand what does this has to do with Dinos or even alleged catastrophic engine failures caused by oil filters in them or other vintage era Ferraris ?

P.S. For what it’s worth, or not, and while also not directly related to this topic, I’ve driven probably hundreds of thousands of miles with various Fram filters in countless vehicles in past 40+ year and have never experienced any problem with them or with any of the other half a dozen+ filter brands I’ve installed or used in the same time frame.

 

We have used hundreds of Fram filters on a farm, still do, never an issue.
On a Dino, or any other Ferrari, I would not, after 57 posts... Baldwin is my middle name.

Regards, Alberto

 

i dont use Fram filters for the same reason i dont skydive. not worth the risk. i dont need to personally see a Fram filter blowout or see a human splat on the ground to know there are failures.

 

I skydive, scuba dive, race cars, and they are the most dangerous sports.
Used to Mountain climb too. The only one left out was bullfighting, but too mean.
I fail to see the relation to oil filters.

 

risk factor my friend, risk factor.

 

Getting out of bed, is a risk factor. Staying in it forever, is the same.

 

Kind of goes with something I learned early in my life, “******* (a.k.a. Kitties) will never be heroes !” and other than having saved lives of others more than once, I’ve never tried to act like or be a “hero”, but always aimed to live up to similar standard.

And I can still recall the nearby splash and the aftermath created by a guy falling/jumping out of a 7 story building top floor window.
I was 13 at the time.

P.S. IIRC, person’s own bed has historically been the deadliest place for all of us. And I think a hospital is a good second.

 

your risk of dieing from skydiving is much much greater than mine.

 

Not if you're smart, and foremost know what you are doing.

And, have a reserve 'chute.

Can we can this filter thread? It is becoming inane

Regards, Alberto

Baldwin it is. PERIOD

 

Just received one from Superperformance with a bunch of other parts for my 206. Not cheap.


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$38 for the filter doesn't seem expensive to me when you consider the total cost of an oil & filter change...

 

True, but now justify why someone in the US should pay more for the UFI over the Baldwin? You can always slip your Mechanic a little extra money for no reason -- it's not illegal and he/she will be glad to accept it .

 

True. The only reason I did was I've used UFI's for years and never had an issue and I was ordering a bunch of stuff anyway. But I have nothing against Baldwin.

 

I've always been of an opinion that if cost of labor & prices of parts are concern for a person, it's likely an indication they shouldn't be involved with exotic or vintage cars for enjoyment/pleasure.

Besides, compared to how little most drive their exotics or vintage cars, I don't think even $380 oil filter price tag should raise eyebrows.
I mean if that's what they would cost, it wouldn't stop me driving/enjoying mine as much as I do and I'm far from wealthy.

 

It's a free country -- do as you please, and I will do as I please. (IMO, anyone who doesn't buy at least 3 oil filters at a time is just an art collector ).

 

Only 3 at a time ?!?
I thought the difference between a novice and a serious driving enthusiasts was at least a case or more.
I carry spare filters in my vintage cars during long distance (1000+ mile) drives and even if mileage won’t quite warrant it, change oil & filters in all of them annually.

 

KN HP3001
The old UFI failed at the seal not exploded.
Many torque over limit