Testarossa windshield

I will be interested as those things are hard to source. Mine is perfect but you never know


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superformance, eurospares, fparts uk have aftermarket and oem

pn 63020000

 

They do but $900 is a great price.

 

Mines 140cm or so


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High or low Brian ?

See what we nowadays pay for a MB windshield on my simple GLA model .... $ 400 + installation $ 125 ... or so ...

 

I have no idea what you are asking.

And I am genuinely curious what part a modern Mercedes windshield price plays in this conversation.

 

Looks like he's confused about "great". He might think it means "big" instead of "excellent"

 

I'll repeat my TR windshield story:

In 2003, took a rock in CO. Called my insurance company, and the clerk said: "Mr. Magnusson you have a $1000 deductible so you don't need to make a claim". I informed the clerk that the windshield and trim pieces part cost was $3K.

 

now you pay 3 times more I think - when you can get the trim pieces

 

We are very spoiled. The trim and the glass is all in stock and based on inflation the prices are not bad.
30 years ago when we needed a windshield for even a 10 year old Ferrari we sometimes needed to wait for more than a year or two and the adjusted price was much higher. With modern small batch glass manufacturing we can get what we need in a reasonable amount of time. I remember needing a back glass for a C4 when it was a 10 year old car and we waited about 2 years for some to be made.

 

So the trim pieces are available? Where? That was always a big worry if I broke a windshield


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https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/part/ferrari/62983900-a

Same as everything else. Maranello Classic Parts.

Our glass guys got good at it and quit needing to replace it. I suspect they are all retired now.

They sure didn't do it for $125 though. No one who has replaced a front or rear glass in a TR or even watched it done would ever ask why thats not the price.

 

You see the note about having to cut 2 of the pieces. That one's aftermarket.

Eurospares has the OEM. Listed as for 512TR and M, but the upper and lower part numbers are the same for the TR and 512TR so that would suggest it fits the TR as well.

https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Parts/62983900/Ferrari

 

Thats a good thing and was intentional. They can be cut so they actually fit. Cutting the original pieces was not at all unusual but big gaps because they were too short was not at all unusual either. You are aware anything MPC has made is not aftermarket but Ricambi Originali right? If eurospares is selling original where did they get it? MPC is the sole global source for original parts for any Ferrari the age of a TR. Ferrari turned over parts sales for TR decades ago.

Its been a lot of years since I saw one needing replacement. we always had one on hand in case but our glass guys got good at not damaging them.

 

Thanks, good to know.

Are you saying that because they're solely authorized to do so or because those are genuine F parts?
I don't know all of the details, but they to tend to mark them differently, even if they are authorized.

For example the rear Cavallino badge we discussed a while ago is a part that they had made and they marked it MP.

I'd always choose MP over ES but, sometimes ES has something MP doesn't, even if they got it some time ago.
ES marks things differently also, although sometimes there's some ambiguity.

 

If you go to the Ferrari dealer to buy a TR part that order goes to Ferrari North America. They send it to Ferrari Spa, and they send it to MCP. The part comes back the same way. Its been that way at least since the early 70's. . Ferrari has no desire to be in parts business. Around the time the cars go out of warranty Ferrari ships all spares and all blue prints to MCP. From then on all genuine Ferrari parts come from MCP. They are the sole global source. When they run out of something they get more made. Roger Penske has owned it for a number of years now and they want a higher turn over before they bother to stock an item than when it was under the prior owner. Roger is a business man, not a man who feels a need to help keep old Ferraris on the road. If eurospares has a genuine Ferrari part they bought it from MCP.

 

While my experience doesn't include TR or later model cars, over the years it has been different.
Just last week I had to request a return label (& subsequent refund) on items that were assured (over the phone) being reproduced exactly like OEM, although in hind sight, I should've had them physically/visually inspect, test or email a photograph or two of the actual items in stock before committing.
Their (and subsequently every other retailers) listings, especially 365 GTB/4 coachwork & trim items, for example, are riddled with less than accurate or authentic aftermarket reproductions.

 

And exactly how does that change a single word I said?

 

Well, I thought, perhaps incorrectly, your comment implying that all MCP produced parts are just like OEM. That's all.

 

They are not just like OEM. They are OEM. Ferrari changes part designs. So does MCP. They are not like OEM. THEY ARE OEM.

 

Some of their repro's are less accurate than other repro's.

Despite them being authorized I would treat all "MP" tagged items as repro's, which may or may not be identical to the originally supplied parts.

For example, the digits on their TR repro gear knob are less accurate than the HE knob.

Or the generic toolkit that's labeled as being the supersession for most 70's/80's Ferrari's.

Maybe Brian can comment on whether this toolkit would qualify as OEM in a concourse.

https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/part/ferrari/123254-a

 

OK, OK, if that's how you prefer to interpret semantics, I can live with that.

 

Its not semantics, it language. Learn what OEM means.