FF wheels on a 612

Hi all

I have recently fitted a set of FF wheels to my 612. The rear tyres are rubbing on the inner arches very slightly when driving over a bump. I’m not yet sure but I think they are rubbing towards the inside.

I have 295/35/20 Michelin PS4 tyres on the rear (245/35/20 on the front).

I would be very grateful if anyone can suggest the best solution. I was considering swapping the rear tyres to 285/35/20. Or should I try adding a spacer, perhaps 10mm? I would like to try to make the FF wheel work if possible.

From my research on here I see that the FF wheel width is a 10.5 rear and 8.5 front as opposed to the 612’s 10 and 8.

I also think there is a difference in the offset of around 3 or 4mm.

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Bobby,
Those look great and a 10mm spacer in the rear with the tires you run now should do the trick.

 

You could easily put Hill Engineering 25 mm Type 2 spacers on her with no problems. Will definitely eliminate the rubbing and fill out the wheel wells even better. 612s easily support the 11" rear wheels from the 599 with no issues.

 

Thank you very much for the advice. I will order some spacers ASAP.

It looks like I’m going to have to fit new TPMS valves as well (these wheels have sensors from the FF and although they initially seemed to calibrate ok, they then failed to remain so.)

Thanks again

 

Here is the link to OEM TPMS. Just type in the info and you will find what you need.

You are correct, they are different.

 

those look pretty good but did you try finding a set of the OTO challenge wheels?

 

Post a side pic when you can. They look nice.

 

I have ordered some 20mm type 1 spacers from Hill Engineering. They said that is the biggest they have known on a 612.

In the meantime the rubbing sound has completely stopped even over substantial bumps and on close inspection there seems to be lots of room all round the tyre in the wheel well. I’m now wondering whether the spacers are in fact required.

I’ll have a closer look soon.

 

Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Quick update - it turned out that the FF wheels were not rubbing, it was a noise from the brakes that I had mistaken for rubbing. However, on close inspection the FF rear alloys were sitting quite tight against the bottom of the inner arch and given that I had ordered a pair of 20mm spacers from Hill Engineering I thought I may as well try them.

The car felt noticeably better to drive with the rear spacers on and so I have decided to leave them on.

Here are a couple of photos

 

Looks great!!

 

Subtle but meaningful change. [emoji106]


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Wheels look great on her.

 

Wheels look amazing. Makes the car even look a few years newer. Congrats!


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It does look good!
I have 20" 458 wheels on my 612. Those are a good option aswell.

 

Nice thing about the offsets on the 20" 114.3 mm x 5 wheels, they are close enough to make swaps practical.

5 X 114.3 mm Bolt Pattern



612


Five Spoke F 18”, R 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 18 ET 43.5 mm , R 10J X 19 ET 51.1 mm

Five Spoke Modulars 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 51.1 mm

Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 51.1 mm


599/HGTE/SA Aperta


Five Spoke F 19”, R 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

HGTE/SA Aperta Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8.5J X 20 ET 40 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm


599 GTO


Five V/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 9.5J x 20” ET 38.1 mm, Rear 11.5J x 20” ET 63.8 mm


California/California T


Pentagram Forged, 5 Spoke 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm.

Front 8J X 19 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 52.5 mm

V Spoke Forged, 5 Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 20 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 52.5 mm


458


Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5mm, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 58.5 mm


458 Speciale/Aperta


Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 9J X 20 ET 44.7 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 48.4 mm


FF



Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 53.4 mm


F12



Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 9.5J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 71.6 mm


F12 TDF


Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 10J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 57.3 mm


488



Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 9J X 20 ET 44.7, Rear 11J X 20 ET 38.5 mm


488 Pista



Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 9J X 20 ET TBD, Rear 11J X 20 ET TBD





F8 Tributo


Five Spoke 20” 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 9J X 20 ET TBD, Rear 11J X 20 ET TBD


GTC4 Lusso


Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5 mm, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 43.6 mm


812 Superfast/812 GTS



Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 10J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 57.3 mm


Portofino



Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

Front 8J X 20 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 52.5 mm

 

need advice please!
Can I fix the 812sf twisted forged wheel on a 599 gtb ?

 

I feel like this is such a dumb question, but could somebody here please give me a "Layman's" explanation of what "wheel offset" means? I can never fully understand what it means when somebody says that a certain wheel has more or less offset than another wheel....and how those differing offsets might apply when fitting a certain wheel on my car. Thanks in advance!

 

MB- Yup.

Nick- Think of looking at a wheel from the ends and divide it into two equal width pieces. That would be zero offset if the wheel met the hub against one of the halves. Offset is merely moving the point where the wheel meets the hub towards the inside or outside of a wheel for negative or positive offset. This image shows what I mean.



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Awesome! That helped a lot. Thanks, Taz!

 

Thanks for the information!
Appreciate it!

 

Wheels look great, esp with the 20mm spacers

 

Don’t put lip stick on Mona Lisa.

 

What makes you think the Monal Lisa did not have lipstick? It was invented about 4000 years ago.

 

F8 wheels work perfectly. 265/35 front 315/35 rear.

 

Should read F8 and 305/35 not 315 sorry can’t seem to edit.