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2024 Chinese GP: Post Race Analysis

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  1. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

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    Schumacher is an interesting subject. He has 2 or 3 of the most highlighted "dirty" events. Hill 1994, JV 1997, and Rubens 2010. Perhaps you could include Monaco 06 too. Outside of those events, does he really have a history of being a dirty driver? I don't remember him pushing drivers off the track or dive bombing and crashing into people on a regular basis. All those battles with Hakkinen were very fair from what I remember.

    One could argue Rosberg has a longer list of dirty driving in just the 3 years against Hamilton. He was literally battling 1 other car and has a handful of dirty driving instances.

    Verstappen has a unfavorable highlight reel up to about 2018-2019 and has been very fair (unless he's fighting with Hamilton) since then.

    It's interesting what is considered dirty, who gets labeled as dirty and for what and how it gets compared with other drivers and other incidents.
     
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  2. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    When the battle between the last 2 place cars in the race is the most interesting action of the day, there's something wrong.
     
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  3. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    +1 thats not 'racing' its a sales pitch for a series that is actually lacking RACING. All they talk about are battles that are essentially without any racing meaning.
     
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  4. SimCity3

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    + being able to pilot a bag of bolts, as Max has also previously demonstrated.
     
  5. stever

    stever F1 Rookie
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    Well, F1 teams are going to have a meeting soon to decide if points should be awarded down to 12th. F1 will be meaning less if they do that.
    It seems that Roger Goodell's visit to the F1 paddock last year is bring NFL socialism to F1.
     
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  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Increasing the number of GPs, adding sprint races, and now a proposal to award more points, it seems that everything is done under Liberty to devalue F1. Grand Prix are no more exceptional events these days. Installing slot machines in the grandstands may be next ...
     
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  7. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    More 'participation points' for the non competitive teams lol :) The new points system is more of a 'watering down' of the series in my opinion.
    But wow those team 'values' lol. What has that done for Williams????
     
  8. rotaryrocket7

    rotaryrocket7 Formula Junior

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    Bringing back refueling would require more qualifying level laps, less tire and car management and potentially introduce more errors from drivers and equipment. I liken it to rain races where things have more variability.

    For Max right now, he jumps out to a 5 second lead, then drives conservatively for the remainder of the race unless there's a safety car. I have no doubt of his skill, shows up in qualifying, but he's not being tested in the race at all.

    Driver's like Hulk would shine as well, look at the pace on lighter fuel and not conserving tires. Like I said earlier, the lap record during a race in China is from 2004 - almost certainly because of refueling and light fuel running during the race.
     
  9. bobzdar

    bobzdar F1 Veteran

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    We haven't seen f1 cars able to battle like that in 30 years. Now they can. We had passing in the esses at Suzuka which is the first I can remember and I've been watching since the last '80s.

    Watching Alonso go from 12th up to 7th at the end was pretty fun to watch. Anybody who thinks the racing isn't good because there isn't a battle for first is missing the forest for the trees. We've seen a ton of good racing for all positions except first this year, which is par for the course in f1 for the last 30-40 years. Only difference is that first place doesn't have a 1 in 5 chance of blowing up anymore.
     
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  10. johnireland

    johnireland F1 Veteran
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    I'd love to see modern F1 cars built to be 25% smaller and lighter, with a choice between two engine designs...2.4 liter turbo either 4 or 6 cyl., or a NA 3100cc V8 or V10. Pure petrol design, and with manual transmissions. No DSR, no hybrid technology, no more carbon fiber brakes. Open testing, no budget caps. Fridays, two one hour free practice. Saturday, if there is a sprint race, qualifying in the am, and the sprint race that afternoon becomes the qualifying for the main race. Total fantasy.
     
  11. davem

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  12. itschris

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    I totally agree with this. Create something like MotoGP did. Give the PU choice like you stated. I imagine the NA PU would provide teams a huge savings that they could invest elsewhere to make them competitive. I don't understand why these cars keep getting heavier when literally everyone involved in the actual racing says they need to be dramatically lighter. F1 always seems to do the opposite of what is clear to everyone.
     
  13. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    F1 is catering to the car and engine manufacturers for a cleaner environment.

    F1 could say no and then MercedesAMGF1 and Renault and possibly Honda would leave F1......which I could care less if they did leave.
     
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